Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Green Jeep on October 11, 2014, 04:30:18 AM
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Work has begun....
Fitted rubicon 3.5" lift kit.... well for the time I'm running 4" on the front whilst I wait for the front end kit to be power coated... which includes, flexi front arms, HD steering bar and extended anti roll bar links... All picked up including newish shocks second hand from this site, thanks guys :icon_super:
Mansize spring compressor makes light work of fitting big springs, awesome piece of kit...
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Front brake pipes extended by moving and welding brkt in lower place (not shown here)...
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Sitting well now, feels nice to be climbing into a lifted Cherokee again...
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Make mirrors detachable, remove wheel arches, cut arches back and fit retard arches, FSU baby!
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Car looks brill. That spring compressor looks miles better than the shit Halfords ones I use, where'd you get it?
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epic work, so if that will fit, the trol will fit right? :icon_jook:
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Car looks brill. That spring compressor looks miles better than the shit Halfords ones I use, where'd you get it?
Borrowed it from work... snap on, not cheap, £250, (maybe try hire shops?) awesome though made the job a breeze, which is handy as I will be doing it all again when the flexi arms, HD steering bar and 3.5" springs return from power coat :icon_biggrin: :icon_super:
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Before....
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After...
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Finished...
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Loaded for lanes & Punch hunt...
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Using it now, started to pick up dents and stuff :icon_super:
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Sweet looking ride, well done :)
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shame they only have a 6 month shelf life with Maf driving
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shame they only have a 6 month shelf life with Maf driving
Haha, well I have owned this XJ for six months... Damage has started, had the option of gentle style on special section, or beat everyone's else time by almost halving it...
No plans for pick up conversion, want to keep it complete for laning trips further away and carrying Indian canoe...
Next up is flexi front arms, banks performance exhaust and manifold swap...
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Looks brilliant mate
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Recently competed in a punch hunt and got first in class.... and more punches than anyone else in all the classes, so very pleased with that, pulled some stuff out of the bag and enjoying being in standard class again... :icon_super:
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Been having fun in the XJ, bridge building...
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Erm tree issue...
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a lot of damage for a little tree
:jpshakehead: :jpshakehead:
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a lot of damage for a little tree
:jpshakehead: :jpshakehead:
Yeah not much strength in the front panel, happened whilst backing down a slippy side ways steep slope that pushed the Jeep down the side of the little tree and the angle was right for it all to happen.... had to lever of the tree and break the headlamp free.... duct tape restored the Jeep though haha....
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smashed my head light on mine on a tree did see.
the worst of it was i had a steel winch bumper on order at the time. :banghead: :banghead:
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Love your Cherokee... And impressive battle scars
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smashed my head light on mine on a tree did see.
the worst of it was i had a steel winch bumper on order at the time. :banghead: :banghead:
Do you have 'Tree Blindness' Dave ?
You do have a lot of close encounters with them ... :003:
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yep two tailgates as well on the same Fing tree :banghead: :banghead:
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Another 1st in class at the weekend... managed to get on to the third punch card.... competed with CLCC (Cornish Leaf & Coil Club). Good set out for three different classes, next even 14th June, Fraddon, Kernow...
No longer have to worry about smashing rear glass.... :icon_rolleyes:
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Matey had a mickey mouse strop and it let go sending my kenetic and shackle my way... note to self... if other peoples strops don't look good... skool boy error, hey ho...
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Sorted out front and back end... fitted decent strong bumber and removed rear bumper, towbar and things, got rid of crapy fiberglass corners at the front...
Another first place yesterday...
Dents continue to be added...
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A lot can happen in twelve months...
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smashed another rear (side) window... can't think what might happen next....
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That's looking good Maf 8-)
Do you still have the towbar you've taken off? I wouldn't mind one on the ZJ and heard they were interchangeable?
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That's looking good Maf 8-)
Do you still have the towbar you've taken off? I wouldn't mind one on the ZJ and heard they were interchangeable?
Yeah it's coming on nice... you should check out the CLCC events, was down in deepest darkest kernow yesterday...
Sorry... still using the bracket as a recovery point... just removed the towball and extention piece so the departure angle of the Jeep is better.... plus also I can quickly pop the ball back on if I need to tow the canoe on its trailer....
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Got another first in yesterdays CLCC punch hunt, massive site,
Cherokee a little boss eyed from tree impact.... looks more Cornish now haha...
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Vid of the day....
https://www.magisto.com/video/MAEfI1xbETY-Ax9iCzE
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Finally got the LPG sorted, lpg ecu had lost all its parameters, (was asked if it's been struck by lighting lol) now fully working, tuned, even the lpg gauge is working again... Just needed the ecu reprogrammed.
If anyone is in Cornwall needing LPG help, then Chris is the man to see.... LPG Autos Camelford Station, 07989988060
PL32 9TX
Next event on Sunday is down the far end of Kernow, so pleased as now I have range... plus also the cruise started working again, Jeep running better than on petrol, happy days....
Will no doubt pick up some more dents.... hopefully a trophy as well...
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Swampers have been on again.....
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Not a straight panel left, I like it!!!!
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Not a straight panel left, I like it!!!!
I did an off roading course many years ago and matey asked if I was prepared to use the bodywork to get through tight area's.... think we all know the answer to that...
I have now had to start adding dents on top of previous ones haha... :icon_super:
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We had some spare time and steel over the holidays... 2dr pick up mode... yes strength has been put back in... still some little bits to do...
Will make it better for punch hunts and the tight lanes we have down here... next event on the 10th Jan.... Happy days :icon_super:
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I wondered how long it would be!
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You wouldn't believe how much that would fetch over here....farmers would be reaching for tissues if they they saw that!!!
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Seems that's been the case for a few years Bazz.
Bumped into some Lard rover people about 4 years ago and they were buying Range Rovers and Discos and driving them out to your part of the world to triple their money.
Don't know how re- reg and the fact it's RHD would affect things but ......that's the story they gave me???
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Utility type vehicles of this size are very thin on the ground here Jez...4wd versions are gobbled up before they hit the ground!
You might see the odd Hilux or Izuzu, but the most common is a Niva which has had the angle grinder treatment and a wooden tray stuck in the back!!
If you catch the licence guys in a good mood (or your 'gift' is big enough), having them registered here is no problem.
:icon_rolleyes:
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You wouldn't believe how much that would fetch over here....farmers would be reaching for tissues if they they saw that!!!
Not difficult or expensive to do, surprised no one is doing these mods if demand is there?
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Utility type vehicles of this size are very thin on the ground here Jez...4wd versions are gobbled up before they hit the ground!
You might see the odd Hilux or Izuzu, but the most common is a Niva which has had the angle grinder treatment and a wooden tray stuck in the back!!
If you catch the licence guys in a good mood (or your 'gift' is big enough), having them registered here is no problem.
:icon_rolleyes:
Hi Bazz
Is there any mileage in tricking a few up and shipping them over for some Wonga young man
S
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Latest mods, snapped the chassis by the steering box; well the steering box was holding the chassis together and then the bolts snapped...
So thick angle over the area, then the same on the other leg and braced with box and 45 degree cut lengths to make it all strong and firm again...
Managed another first place on Sunday, best result ever with 1000 points and five filled cards....
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Meanwhile the rear continues to pick up (see what I did there, haha) dents...
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Utility type vehicles of this size are very thin on the ground here Jez...4wd versions are gobbled up before they hit the ground!
You might see the odd Hilux or Izuzu, but the most common is a Niva which has had the angle grinder treatment and a wooden tray stuck in the back!!
If you catch the licence guys in a good mood (or your 'gift' is big enough), having them registered here is no problem.
:icon_rolleyes:
Hi Bazz
Is there any mileage in tricking a few up and shipping them over for some Wonga young man
S
I haven't forgotten you Stu...still hunting for a fellow I know (the man who knows about this stuff).
:97:
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One careful owner, never offroaded... :003: :icon_eek:
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One careful owner, never offroaded... :003: :icon_eek:
Age related parking knocks, used for Church runs and the former keeper was the vicar's wife, :icon_super:
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Now fitted STT pro's and we tested them at the weekend... Very pleased, excellent road manners and not noisy, very good off road, a good test was pulling away on a side slope whilst towing a broken down truck up hill across grass, tyres held nicely and no wheel spin. During the day various other surfaces and the previous evening...
Got some more trophies, 1st for the punch hunt... 3rd for the night stage; two high speed runs around the farm/quarry/woods and a waffle board challenge, excellent result since no classes and we where up against the 'big boys' trucks...
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Well, we did it, First place for the 12 month series, managed 9 out of 11 first places, a lot of hard work, time and effort. Jeep has taken a fair bit of punishment; now down to just two bits of glass from the original ten... Seen lots of great new sites in Cornwall and looking forward to next season although we wont be doing as many events and getting back to laning, which we have been doing again recently.
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Most of this should buff out?
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Shelf proper full, lots of pulling it out of the bag and teamwork to get this lot...
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More work on the Steering box issues....
Had a bracket made up for the steering box using spacers at 11mm and a piece of 6mm steel, used the crappy alloy bracket as a template, steering box threads have been drilled and re tapped to 12mm thread so that heavy duty bolts can be used and easier to source from the local parts supplier.
Replaced N/S ball joints and O/S track rod end... as ever all last minute.com for the event on Sunday.
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Nice
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At least that wont break like the cast alluminium O.E part
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At least that wont break like the cast alluminium O.E part
Yeah snapped that with our bare hands, also the plate will spread the strain on the inner chassis rail rather than have three points...
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More works, new bushes made locally from PU as the old ones where destroyed after 2000 miles... super tough now...
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Cut the damaged sill out and fit 80mm box (6mm thick) so that hi lift can jack up and avoid rock damage without making the Jeep wider or lower...
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Finally got around to tidying the front of the Cherokee, used the front end of a mk1 that I bought for spares....
Before....
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After....
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Much smarter, didn't bother with the surrounds as they stuck out further than the bashed in wings....
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Wonder how long it will all last lol!
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Erm new front end didn't last very long.... still another first, Jeep did well and we got onto our fifth punch card.... happy days
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Like the flex, Cherokee sitting nice.
Gaffer taped the lights back on for the return home, will take them off at the start of the next event :icon_winkle:
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Competed again last weekend and another first, worked hard as the site was tough and lots of tree stumps as the power company had napalmed a massive strip either side of the power lines, used a mattock and axe to stop the waffles slipping down a side slope, love coming up with new idea's! Really pleased with the STT Pro's, imho the best tyre for on road and amazing off road, run them at 10psi.
Cheeky vid....
https://www.magisto.com/video/PVUWZERbRC0sVExnCzE
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Rear quarter has been smacked even more now
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