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Title: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Medic961 on October 18, 2015, 10:46:01 AM
Hi all
I'm collecting a jeep tomorrow and bringing home using an A frame.
Now I think the best place for the chains is by the wheel hub.
Also do I need to remove rear prop ? I've had someone say if I don't it can lead to the rear wheels locking up.
This vehicle is a manual 4 litre Sahara.
Thanks
Ian
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Brynjaminjones on October 18, 2015, 11:29:08 AM
I don't know for sure, but I doubt the rear wheels could lock up if the transfer case was in neutral  8-)
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: General Confusion on October 18, 2015, 12:05:32 PM
Just put everything in neutral. Mind you, in 2H it should just tow like any other 2WD vehicle.
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Medic961 on October 18, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
Cheers fellas.
One less thing to worry about.
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Ezz on October 18, 2015, 12:42:46 PM
Am I right in saying if the tyres touch the road the vehicle should have T&T??
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Mike Pavelin on October 18, 2015, 04:32:19 PM
If it's over 750KG and on an A frame it has to have brakes connected and operating on all 4 wheels the same as any other trailer. :003:
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Panic mechanic! on October 18, 2015, 05:26:48 PM
if you want the full legislation.....

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/408927/a-frames-and-dollies.pdf

basically its a trailer  so doesn't need to be t+t'd but it still has to be road safe
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: bgbazz on October 18, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
Might be time to call Jay....
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Delk on October 18, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
It's been far to many years but I thought towing a TJ required leaving the transfercase I gear. Is the oil pump in a 231 on the input or output?
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Bubba on October 18, 2015, 06:33:39 PM
o my goodness the world is going to come to a cataclysmic  end   


i have flat towed hundreds of 4x4s  without causing a rip in the space time continuum  for tj xj zj i have always put the chains on the inboard of the spring mount on the axle tube the diff side is tight  if auto i put them in park with transfer in neutral if manual both in neutral


the worst that plod can do is do you for an unbraked trailer  over 750kg  tyres must be legal and you should have trailer board and towing vehicles reg on it

just make sure you are towing with something up to the job
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Panic mechanic! on October 18, 2015, 09:13:41 PM
can remember sliding sideways into toddington services with a blue scrambler in tow with lee and bubba.... a fun day many moons ago!
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Medic961 on October 18, 2015, 10:16:39 PM
o my goodness the world is going to come to a cataclysmic  end   


i have flat towed hundreds of 4x4s  without causing a rip in the space time continuum  for tj xj zj i have always put the chains on the inboard of the spring mount on the axle tube the diff side is tight  if auto i put them in park with transfer in neutral if manual both in neutral


the worst that plod can do is do you for an unbraked trailer  over 750kg  tyres must be legal and you should have trailer board and towing vehicles reg on it

just make sure you are towing with something up to the job

So I need to put chains on inside side of the springs and not out next to wheels.
I'm towing with a cherokee 2.8crd. Hopefully up to the job.
I've a trailer board and sign for window.
Numberplate on it also.
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: jay140285 on October 18, 2015, 10:48:05 PM
Do as bubba said and you will be fine.


www.facebook.com/jrservicingandtransport

www.jrservicingandtransport.co.uk
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Bubba on October 19, 2015, 05:45:46 AM
o my goodness the world is going to come to a cataclysmic  end   


i have flat towed hundreds of 4x4s  without causing a rip in the space time continuum  for tj xj zj i have always put the chains on the inboard of the spring mount on the axle tube the diff side is tight  if auto i put them in park with transfer in neutral if manual both in neutral


the worst that plod can do is do you for an unbraked trailer  over 750kg  tyres must be legal and you should have trailer board and towing vehicles reg on it

just make sure you are towing with something up to the job

So I need to put chains on inside side of the springs and not out next to wheels.
I'm towing with a cherokee 2.8crd. Hopefully up to the job.
I've a trailer board and sign for window.
Numberplate on it also.




that is the position for the chains that work best for my A frame  and allows for full steering on the towed jeep without seeing yours  i cant say exactly
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Delk on October 19, 2015, 07:59:11 AM
o my goodness the world is going to come to a cataclysmic  end   


i have flat towed hundreds of 4x4s  without causing a rip in the space time continuum  for tj xj zj i have always put the chains on the inboard of the spring mount on the axle tube the diff side is tight  if auto i put them in park with transfer in neutral if manual both in neutral


Easy tiger, honest question since I do remember hearing something but don't have a clue if its true or not. I am not one to debate if the air pressure needs to be 28 or 29 psi for better road manners.
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: JamesH on October 19, 2015, 09:46:05 AM
I'm pretty sure it says in the owners manual how to flat tow it. My XJ did and that was to put the auto box in park and the transfer case in neutral.
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Jonny Jeep on October 19, 2015, 10:22:56 AM
In gear, TC in neutral.
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Ezz on October 19, 2015, 08:55:19 PM
I find it strange, if the t/case is in neutral, why does it matter what the gearbox is in??
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Dutch on October 19, 2015, 09:05:58 PM
I find it strange, if the t/case is in neutral, why does it matter what the gearbox is in??

I'll take an uneducated punt : shafts are still spinning round someway or other and it's got to do with lubrication of bits that need lubrication, otherwise over long distances things will run dry/hot and go bang.

What do I win  :003:
Title: Re: Towing a manual TJ
Post by: Mike Pavelin on October 19, 2015, 09:32:50 PM
Werd. On an auto, the oil pump is driven by the torque converter, so if the engine isn't running, the 'box doesn't get lubricated or cooled properly. Hence, leave it in Park so it doesn't turn at all. Seems pretty irrelevant in a manual, though.