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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 09:27:59 AM

Title: 4.5" lift...
Post by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 09:27:59 AM
Having just sold my Saab we've got some cash that's supposed to be destined for the new steading project.

But...

I'm wondering what size tyres will fit under a 4.5" lift...? 33's?  :smt112
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Post by: stevos on May 18, 2006, 09:36:26 AM
ive 33`s under ma 4.5" on the TJ but  35`s would squeeeeeeeeze in and probably look feecckkin mad as an elephant wee a giraffes neck :applaudit:  :applaudit:
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Post by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 09:39:16 AM
Yeah but on an xj??

I saw a picture of an xj somewhere that had bushwacker flares and cut-away arches that had a 4.5" lift and the tyres looked fookin massive. Think it might have been on jeepclub...
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Post by: dblades on May 18, 2006, 09:47:24 AM
Hi Lefty,

Please keep me in mid if your selling your old lift kit?? (subject to age and condition bla bla bla)

I'm also in Aberdeen (Peterculter just now but soon moving to Inverbervie) where are you based??
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Post by: RichT on May 18, 2006, 09:53:09 AM
Lefty has an XJ, kit will not fit a TJ :cry:
Title: Just my luck!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dblades on May 18, 2006, 09:58:09 AM
Thanks for letting me know
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Post by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 10:12:52 AM
Hey dblades, great to have another jeep owner up here!

I'm in aberdeen although looking to move out into the sticks soon.

As Rich says, I've got an XJ so my old lift kit wouldnt be much use to you.

Have you been to Nortrak, the pay'n'play at Inverbervie yet? Hopefully see you there sometime...


p.s. wave if you see a lifted xj around town - hardly anyone does up here
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Post by: dblades on May 18, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: "lefty"
Hey dblades, great to have another jeep owner up here!

I'm in aberdeen although looking to move out into the sticks soon.

As Rich says, I've got an XJ so my old lift kit wouldnt be much use to you.

Have you been to Nortrak, the pay'n'play at Inverbervie yet? Hopefully see you there sometime...


p.s. wave if you see a lifted xj around town - hardly anyone does up here


I've not had a chance to get down to Nortrak as yet but I do have to free vouchers to try the place so it wont be long!!
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Post by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 10:27:20 AM
Nice one, let me know when you're going and I'll be sure to go that day too.

There's an event at glentarkie soon too...

Project Engineer your profile says... who do you work for? I'm with Shell for my sins  :o
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Post by: chrisjones on May 18, 2006, 10:47:09 AM
On an XJ. 4 1/2" lift + Cutaway arches = 33" tyres 8)
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Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2006, 10:47:46 AM
hi lefty,

you wont get 33's on with a 4.5" lift & if you could, you would HAVE to regear..........33's wont clear without at least 5.5" lift & chopping bodywork about! :wink:

so if you want 33's, its an even bigger lift, body mods & a regear......MUCHO ££££££!!!
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Post by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 10:59:23 AM
hmmmm,

lots to think about there...

New bumpers are top of the list. got my snorkel and the discos are shipping as i speak...

what's involved in re-gearing - just a new final drive? that's gottabe pretty dear... £500?
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Post by: Manda on May 18, 2006, 11:27:23 AM
Shop around for your re-gear if that's the way you want to head. Costs vary hugely, some 'specialists' will send your axles off to other companies to re-gear so find the end-man as opposed to the middle man. I've heard good things of Rednexx. See Suppliers (http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=556)

It may also be more cost effective to purchase your own r&p. It's a good time to chuck those lockers in too...  :wink:
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Post by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 11:29:19 AM
hmmmmm, it's gettin serious! i wonder if the wife'll notice the jeep got a bit higher...  :wink:
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Post by: chrisjones on May 18, 2006, 12:15:56 PM
You will get 33" tyres under a 4.5" lift with cut away arches, but I do mean cut away and tubbed (like they do on rally cars), not trimmed back! :wink:
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Post by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 12:18:57 PM
http://http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/features.cfm?id=18

found it...  8)
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Post by: JamesH on May 18, 2006, 04:14:07 PM
I've seen at least two XJ's (Vince's '93 & a '99) with 4.5" lifts and 33x12.50x15 BFG MTs. They both had Bushwacker flares and a EDM wheel well expansion (he's a Jeep specialist and Subaru rally driver/engineer). They flex like crazy.

I reckon you could do just the BW flares with less trimming and still fit but lose flex.

You'll almost definitely need a SYE kit and new driveshaft, correct bumpstopping and new wheels to get away from the body more. The stock control arms and steering geometry is also getting to it's limit at 4.5" if you want to do it properly. Even with 31s I want to regear so it's a definite for 33s.

The general consensus for lift height and tyre size on XJs is 2" = 30", 3"= 31", 4.5"=32" 6"=33" with only minor adjustments and trimming. I'm all in favor of trimming more and lifting less, keeping a low centre of gravity but it has to be done right IMHO.

Have a look at some of the combinations on www.naxja.org/forum (http://www.naxja.org/forum) and see what takes your fancy.

Hope it helps, JH  :wink:
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Post by: Tank on May 18, 2006, 05:20:52 PM
My old beast had 32`s on before we even fitted the Bushwacker Flares.The arches had to be cut away to fit them and then there was plenty of room for 33`s,but with the articulation i had i didnt need to bother.It did struggle a bit on the road,especially uphill as it had no re-gearing done at all,and i did get a small amount of vibes through the driveline
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Post by: Mik on May 18, 2006, 05:31:33 PM
(http://http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/MikStan/PV7A5292.jpg)
(http://http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g180/MikStan/NO1M9192.jpg)

Try 36", you know it makes sense
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Post by: isle of man on May 18, 2006, 05:40:10 PM
thats a clayton set up....very nice.



peter henry
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Post by: Manda on May 18, 2006, 07:18:00 PM
That's a proper beastie.  :D
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Post by: chrisjones on May 18, 2006, 07:26:53 PM
Show off! 8)  :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2006, 08:02:49 PM
been weighing up sticking 235-85-16's on mine, sorta 32" and a bit, hoping no hacking needed as they are much narrower than 33-12.5.
And KD before you fooking start the lift kits should be ready at the end of the month so sod off  :P
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Post by: lefty on May 18, 2006, 08:21:45 PM
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Try 36", you know it makes sense


fook me! that's amazing, what lift is that??
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Post by: Bubba on May 18, 2006, 08:27:24 PM
its the gold card lift
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Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2006, 08:56:12 PM
Quote from: "offroading.net"
And KD before you fooking start the lift kits should be ready at the end of the month so sod off  :shock:
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Post by: stevos on May 19, 2006, 07:13:44 AM
Lefty wants 36" eh eh eh eh ?????????????? :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: lefty on June 13, 2006, 03:22:38 PM
:o

(http://http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/greenxj/HPIM0070.jpg)

(http://http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/greenxj/0ce0220c.jpg)

(http://http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i275/greenxj/HPIM0047.jpg)


All taken from naxja
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Post by: stevos on June 13, 2006, 05:10:54 PM
id have a mad toy like that. :D