Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Brynjaminjones on March 01, 2016, 11:45:45 AM
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Yet more Jeep things to be dealing with!
The ZJ has just returned from MOT with holes poked in sills, as well as a bunch of other smaller failures.
I now need to fairly urgently get the sills sorted, but have no idea where to go for this sort of thing.
What do you guys suggest?
Note: if replacing them, I want them to look original, rather than replacing with box section!
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I was just about to say box :jpshakehead:
Hope you find some cover type replacements as the originals go quite a long way up and are captured by other panels in the original manufacture.
They are paper thin and an insult to a ruffty tufty 4x4 tis why I went box :icon_twisted:
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I am considering box, but Emily isn't keen. It's currently looking like this may be a job for a body shop to get it done well...
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Box section will give you better side impact protection to
and better for going laning
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I did think that. Still beyond my ability, but I will enquire about it when I take the ZJ to a body shop later for quotes.
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I did this to a zj(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu106%2Fdt00th%2FIMAG0926_zpsa68b190e.jpg&hash=30d2848f860f53c53f166fc8d0d996530c45a668) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/dt00th/media/IMAG0926_zpsa68b190e.jpg.html)
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You'll get raped at a body shop......honest..... :jpshakehead:
Box looks good .....somewhere there's my thread on mine......
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Thanks for the help guys, and Jez, the box section actually looks pretty nice. Emily however wants it to look original, and whether or not we did box section, we'd still be getting a body shop to do it! The Jeep is now booked in to get the rust sorted so should hopefully be looking far too shiny in a week or so's time!
Next question: I need a new one of whatever these parts are called. Will this one fit a RHD ZJ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Right-Front-Axle-Rod-Assembly-JEEP-MOOG-DS1311-/291645817613?fits=Car+Make%3AJeep%7CModel%3AGrand+Cherokee%7CCars+Year%3A1997%7CPlat_Gen%3AZJ&hash=item43e772030d:g:hOEAAOSwJcZWe5-W
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Why not stick your reg number in the box and see what comes back.
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Just read on that old thread I posted up that Lighties do replacement panels for the ZJ cills.
Hopefully they still do.... :icon_super:
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Literally just got off the phone with Lighty's and ordered most parts I need, but they say they don't touch things like sill replacement panels!
It would make it so much easier searching for steering components if places told you if LHD or RHD! :banghead:
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Damned expensive Jeep. Lighty's to the rescue - I've now ordered the following:
- Brake pads all around
- Front left CV gaiter
- Left tie rod
- Right tie rod end
It's also booked in for sill repair at a local bodyshop.
Gulp, this is going to be painful!! :icon_eek:
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Bryn
Do you still need a viscous fan for the xj :icon_winkle:
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Bryn
Do you still need a viscous fan for the xj :icon_winkle:
Yes!! I never got around to messaging you, and was going to put my XJ hold whilst we got the ZJ sorted, but if you've still got one I'm very interested!
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Do I need to remove the hub from the half shaft to change the rubber CV boot, or can I pull it out all in one and slide the boot on from the other end?
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It should pull out as one
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Yeah just pull the while lot out and slide it on from the diff end of the shaft.
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Excellent, shouldn't be quite as painful as I was fearing!!
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I'm having a bit of trouble with this and wondering if anyone has any advice.
Excuse me if I get the names wrong - lots of time spent on US forums!
I'm trying to disconnect the steering damper from the drag link and can't for the life of me shift it.
I've tried with all my strength with a ball joint remover, and tried much hammering, but just can't get it to budge. Any ideas what I should do?
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hit it harder or use a bigger hammer
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Damn, don't have a bigger hammer! I'm also worried about damaging the thread on the damper as I'm reusing it!
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A wee bit of heat maybe? One of those small Gaz blowtorch thingies comes to mind.
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leave the nut on the thread as you only have to break the interference fit. Hit the nut as this should protect the threads.
use a splitter to create a high pull force on the damper bolt and hit the steering arm body while under load
or tighten the puller FT spray with penetrating fluid (not wd40) and leave for 10 mins, go back and repeat. At some point you might find it apart. Done the same with a pitman arm
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Hydraulic bearing puller - like others have already said leave the nut on the taper to protect the thread and set the bearing puller up as per the instructions it comes with (they're cheap to hire but F-Expensive to buy!) and wind it in as tight as you can. Add some penetrating oil, wind it tighter if possible and leave for a while.
If all else fails, tighten the nut up tighter than it should be then remove it until it's on the threads just enough to protect them and try again.
Might sound daft tightening it but often this can help break a "rust-seal" on the taper and then the more normal methods work better.
Oh yeah - one last thing! Good luck! :icon_biggrin:
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I used pitman arm puller and plenty of penetrating oil,kept tightening the puller and spraying eventully next day Bang it popped out.
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I used pitman arm puller and plenty of penetrating oil,kept tightening the puller and spraying eventully next day Bang it popped out.
Glad you got it sorted! :icon_biggrin:
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Cheers for the advice guys, but I've had to abandon it for now. I ran out of time this weekend before it was booked into a body shop for sill rust work.
I reassembled as was and spoke to a friendly local garage who will have a look at the tie rod ends once bodywork is done.
Another thing I've found - the front brake pads are wearing at a horrendous angle. There was about 6mm of pad at one end, but worn all the way through at the other on one pad each side at the front.
When I installed new calipers last year I had to sand down the grooves in the knuckles to stop the brakes binding when hot - I'm guessing this is what's causing the poor wear?
The angle is so bad that with new pads it makes the brakes feel very soft, and I'm guessing that's because only one corner of the pad is really contacting until I press the pedal.
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Ditch it and buy a Corsa :icon_eek: :003:
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The grooves,in the knuckles need to be filled with a blob of weld and then ground smooth.....
And voila your calipers with slide as if on a new Jeep.... :icon_twisted:
And don't get a Corsa :steeringwheel:
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Ditch it and buy a Corsa :icon_eek: :003:
May be able to cut him a deal on a smart car :hysterical:
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Oi you lot! No Corsas here thank you very much. :003:
I'll give the Smart car a miss too, thanks Dutch! :hysterical:
Jeep is in bodyshop - hoping to visit it today to see progress. I don't know anyone else around here who can weld either and these guys didn't seem like they'd take the piss, so I've asked them to have a quick look at the knuckles for me.
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Don't diss the Corsa Bryn - I can see you in this
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi54.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg117%2FEnglishXJ%2FBryns%2520new%2520ride_zpsr7wx1uan.jpg&hash=06cbea0277e9b9af8b45186896b9ed0c47a3c96c)
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Don't diss the Corsa Bryn - I can see you in this
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi54.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg117%2FEnglishXJ%2FBryns%2520new%2520ride_zpsr7wx1uan.jpg&hash=06cbea0277e9b9af8b45186896b9ed0c47a3c96c)
YUCK!!!
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I like the periscope on the roof Ha Ha.
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Few more trips to Halfords with the 'shite magnet' on and it'll look just like all the other crap on the 'estate'
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I like the periscope on the roof Ha Ha.
That's his "Chavs'R'Us" light bar! :hysterical:
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We have those over here too.....lots of them. :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
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Not amused James!!
Rust work on the ZJ has over run, but as a plus we've ended up with this Benz for nothing in the mean time.
It's nice, however totally lacking in any character so Emily can have it and I'll stick to my XJ!
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Hmmmm, Daimler-Chrysler, Daimler-Benz - it's almost a Jeep, third cousin twice removed or something but nearly! :icon_eek: