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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Mike WJUK on September 01, 2006, 09:52:32 AM

Title: Anti-roll bar removal?
Post by: Mike WJUK on September 01, 2006, 09:52:32 AM
My mate's XJ was suffering from lack of articulation and open diffs at Kirton last weekend and along with suggesting some disconnects for the front, i mentioned that i thought some owners ditch the rear anti-roll bar altogether. Is this true or did i dream it :?
If it is, does the on-road handling suffer?
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on September 01, 2006, 10:01:28 AM
Nope, you didn't dream it. Ditching it is a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel.
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Post by: Rikk on September 01, 2006, 10:06:35 AM
I think it depends how he likes to drive, I like to throw my ZG around quite a bit and found it wallowed way to much for my liking for the odd offroad session.
Also I would imagine you'd need to let your insurance company know as I'm pretty damn sure if he turned it over on a normal road and the inspector saw he had the anti roll bar taken off the insurance company would wave bye bye very quickly.
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Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2006, 10:11:06 AM
have run mine without it for over a year with no probs..........tis only a bent paperclip anyway!!

Rikk, yours will feel different cos you got coils all round, us XJers have leafs on the back so its a bit stiffer!
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Post by: Anonymous on September 01, 2006, 11:02:49 AM
But has anyone removed it off a TJ ????
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Post by: isle of man on September 01, 2006, 11:10:42 AM
Quote from: "EvilEd"
But has anyone removed it off a TJ ????


i have removed the rear one.......but on the front have a tera flex swayloc, works for me.


peter henry
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Post by: ExtremeTJ on September 01, 2006, 11:35:08 AM
:imwitstupid:

Mines been of since it first came home from the garage.
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Post by: Mr.Stu on September 01, 2006, 12:21:34 PM
Ditched mine ages ago too - well actually chucked it in the back of the garage rather than a ditch but you know what I mean  :lol:

IIRC the Diesel XJ never had one out of the factory anyway.

Stu.
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Post by: chrisjones on September 01, 2006, 05:10:54 PM
Junk it.  It's the kindest thing you can do to it.  As for the on road handling, I can't say how it effects stock springs, but with a lift and stiffer leaves it improves the on road handling not having one.

As has been said, Oil burners don't have one as stock anyway so taking it off shouldn't effect your insurance.
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Post by: daggie on September 01, 2006, 05:28:10 PM
:imwitstupid:
sling it

wj/zjs keep unless you want to be  :smt078
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Post by: Mike WJUK on September 02, 2006, 12:20:10 AM
Cheers, i'll pass the message on then maybe he won't grind to a halt everytime he gets to some axle twisters.
Wonder why Jeep ditched the LSD on the later XJ's. Seems like a backward step - or were they no good?
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Post by: ExtremeTJ on September 02, 2006, 12:44:51 AM
Look, no anti roll bar

(http://http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5589/rich3bc7.th.jpg) (http://http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rich3bc7.jpg)

(http://http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2357/rich1bp4.th.jpg) (http://http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rich1bp4.jpg)
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Post by: Psychoman on September 02, 2006, 09:57:13 AM
Quote from: "Mike WJUK"
Cheers, i'll pass the message on then maybe he won't grind to a halt everytime he gets to some axle twisters.
Wonder why Jeep ditched the LSD on the later XJ's. Seems like a backward step - or were they no good?


LSD is definitely better than nothing - I think towards the end of the XJ lifecycle they simply started cutting corners. The last XJs issues in around 2000 were a right hodge podge of spare bits and pieces they seemed to have lying around - most of them don't even have door pockets, lots with cloth trim rather than leather, etc, etc.
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Post by: isle of man on September 04, 2006, 07:59:23 AM
Quote from: "mmore"
Quote from: "ExtremeTJ"
Look, no anti roll bar
Interesting photos!

I thought I had read on some of the US forums a while back that it was not advisable to remove the rear anti-roll bar on a TJ as it made the vehicle very unstable.

Has anyone else come across this?



yes handles like a boat at speed...........but i never bought my wrangler for speed anyway.



peter henry
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Post by: Anonymous on September 04, 2006, 09:06:17 AM
Bugger, looks like I'll be keeping mine then...

I like speed.... :)
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Post by: Plum on September 04, 2006, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: "EvilEd"
Bugger, looks like I'll be keeping mine then...

I like speed.... :)


Ditto . .
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on September 04, 2006, 03:04:05 PM
I made disconnects for mine, best of both worlds.
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on September 04, 2006, 08:05:11 PM
All you do is lose the nut on the bolt that holds the link to the bracket on the axle, drill through the end of the bolt and secure it with a clevis pin instead. Weld a ring or a big washer to the head of the bolt to make it easier to pull out. If you drill a hole in the lip on the bottom edge of the inner wheel well you can swivel the link upside down and secure it out of the way with the bolt and pin when disconnected. If you're really keen you could have a couple of nice stainless pins machined up to replace the bolts.