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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 05:40:29 PM

Title: XJ tyres
Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 05:40:29 PM
Evenin all,

1st question since joining.....

I wanna cut up the mud with my 93 Cherokee, what tyres do you guys recommend with standard suspension (no lift kit ......yet)??? Oh & I will be putting them on spare wheels (if I can find some) as my little jeep is my daily driver!!

Have family in the tyre trade so getting them isnt a prob....

Thanks in advance

Paul
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 05:49:15 PM
235-75-15's
goodyear mt/r's are the quietist muds, i'd get a spare set of wheels and get some colway mt's for offroad use though. review on my site
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 06:03:36 PM
:imwitstupid:
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Post by: Tank on April 06, 2005, 06:12:46 PM
Goodyear mt/r`s are definately a little better on road than BF Goodrich but they arent so good in the mud.Its a common misconception that the mt/r stands for mud terrain but its not,its maximum traction/reinforced.I run Goodyear MT/R`S and although they are good,i find them sometimes a little embarrasing crossing slightly muddy tracks as they tend to slide about a lot.If you want a good compromise then go for the BF Goodrich AT`S but if you want more offroad capability then go for BF Gooodrich MT`S or a similar type,ie colway. Hope this helps.:D  :D
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 06:17:54 PM
MT/Rs are the only mudish offering in a jeep size, the real mud they do is the G90 (landrover size :lol: then ya fooked  :lol:

BTW did I hear the the mtr is being discontinued?
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 06:33:20 PM
235/75*15 will fit & not foul anything?

Will raid my Dads tyre warehouse & see what hes got....... :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 06:39:48 PM
Yep, may rub v slightly if the rear springs are really saggy and your on full articulation, but only v slightly  :D
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 06:41:15 PM
i use general Grabber M/T's, and so do a few other members in the club.Never had any problems with them, but not to sure if they will do your size.Look on E-Bay for a set of wheels.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 07:02:50 PM
You will have to put a link to your dads tyre company :smt023
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Post by: trent on April 06, 2005, 09:40:00 PM
Good idea darky.................  and maybe a club discount :shock:
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Post by: Tank on April 06, 2005, 09:52:12 PM
Here Here :!:  :!:
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 11:38:02 PM
:imwitstupid:
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Post by: Anonymous on April 06, 2005, 11:57:21 PM
I can't rate BFG M/T's 235 75 15's enough

They transformed the off roading abilities of my old Cherry and on road..no problem
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on April 07, 2005, 08:12:42 AM
Colways are 1/3 the price of BfG but softer compound and 'kin NOISY!!!
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Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2005, 08:45:18 AM
Big plus of the BFG's tho is they may last @40k miles
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Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2005, 09:09:09 AM
I've had 20k miles on colway muds with very little ware and 38k miles on colway at's with 50% ware, bloody good IMHO.
Anyway Stew I've seen you very nearly stuck on your BFG MT's where my XJ sailed through on colway AT's  :lol:  :wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2005, 09:43:47 AM
Thats coz I was making the trail open for you 8)
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Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2005, 10:48:20 AM
I seem to remember to threw most of the trail on front of my XJ and disappeared in a cloud of diesel smoke  :roll:
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Post by: MK1 on April 07, 2005, 10:53:38 AM
At what point would you expect a set of 31/10.5/15 Goodyear Wrangler MT to become useless?

The CJ came with a set with about 6mm tread left.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2005, 10:58:26 AM
when you get stuck  :roll:  Depends on the surface your on, on wet mud I would say they were boarder line with 6mm
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Post by: monkeybiz on April 07, 2005, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: "offroading.net"
when you get stuck  :roll:  Depends on the surface your on, on wet mud I would say they were boarder line with 6mm


yup aggree

rule of thumb is 5mm and they are scrap for mud as there isnt enough tread left to clear, when you get down to 6mm the tread sucks up the mus instead of throwing it out.

gwyn
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Post by: greggmo on April 07, 2005, 08:37:49 PM
clogged tyres just add to the fun dont they? 8)
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Post by: monkeybiz on April 07, 2005, 08:52:32 PM
Quote from: "greggmo"
clogged tyres just add to the fun dont they? 8)


nah it gets boreing pulling out landies after a while. thats the only reason the mudcruzr has a nato tow hitch on the back is to pull out landies with bald tyres
3 pre requisites of owning a landie

1. gotta be a boreing fart
2. gotta have a big beard
3. gotta have bald muds fitted
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Post by: greggmo on April 07, 2005, 09:03:41 PM
i like the storm trooper mate. :lol:
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Post by: monkeybiz on April 07, 2005, 09:21:50 PM
you should see the wife eyes up when i take it off and im in my spiderman outfit  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2005, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: "scotjeeps"
1. gotta be a boreing fart
2. gotta have a big beard
3. gotta have bald muds fitted


Nope, none of the above  :butthead:
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Post by: Anonymous on April 07, 2005, 10:30:15 PM
Hello Mr ScottJeeps and welcome to Birtys

and I still havn't used that Explorer tow rope yet  :lol:
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Post by: MK1 on April 08, 2005, 01:53:13 AM
Sorry to hijack the thread from KD.

Given what you have said about my near scrap tyres, what do you recommend?

I don't/won't be going far enough, fast enough or often enough to worry about the 'on road' behaviour. Maybe some really aggresive remould MT's?

The CJ is purely a toy, which will get upgraded as/when things break.
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Post by: Bubba on April 08, 2005, 06:28:50 AM
just buy boggers
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Post by: monkeybiz on April 08, 2005, 07:30:26 AM
im a lover of greenway matcho's they have the yokohama MT tread patern. i have the fedima version on the bundera and they are very iimpresive on and offroad with the birty discount they work out at about £50 something each for 31's

or standard colway mt's about £40 ish for the 31's but id go with the macho's personaly

gwyn

www.mountainjacks.co.uk (http://www.mountainjacks.co.uk)

select the wheels and tyres link, im in the middle of updating the prices and we have a new supplier so dont take it as gospel
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Post by: MK1 on April 08, 2005, 11:55:26 AM
Bubba, Can you please tell me more about 'Boggers'. :thinking:
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Post by: ponyracer1 on April 08, 2005, 08:33:19 PM
They'll last between 15 and 20 thousand miles, roar like a dragon at ALL speeds but will go ANYWHERE in any terrain. And they look like something out of a horror film.
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Post by: Bubba on April 08, 2005, 08:57:00 PM
yup wooohoo
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Post by: MK1 on April 09, 2005, 02:22:09 AM
I found some 'Boggers' at LA Supertrux. 31/12.5/15 at £216.38 EACH might be a bit on the expensive side.  :shock:
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Post by: Bubba on April 09, 2005, 06:10:49 AM
cheaper from 4wd
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Post by: MK1 on April 09, 2005, 11:19:39 AM
I'll give them a miss this time!  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2005, 11:03:10 PM
Well, just got back from "Valhalla" (aka Birmingham :lol: ) with my spare wheels courtesy of darky, brand spanking new BFG M/T's going on tomorrow & we will be all set for Ribbesford!!

Mucho gracias Darky for the alloys, will make sure i put em to good use!!

If anyone wants a price for any new tyres for their Jeep, let me know & I will see what my dad can do...........he's got a tyre depot in Ross-on-Wye, right at the end of the M50 & keeps shedloads of 4x4 stuff in stock or can get it pretty quick if he hasnt got what u want!! I will see if I can get some sort of club discount scheme set up for you all!!

Paul
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Post by: Anonymous on April 11, 2005, 11:18:49 PM
Glad i could help mate :D
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Post by: Bubba on April 12, 2005, 06:11:18 AM
i think i know were you mean
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Post by: Manda on April 12, 2005, 09:22:24 PM
This is a picture of some Boggers - they just happen to be on a V8 Scrambler...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... egory=6280 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4541515849&category=6280)
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Post by: Bubba on April 12, 2005, 10:29:52 PM
SHHHWWING
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Post by: MK1 on April 13, 2005, 02:30:19 AM
I spotted the Scrambler the other day whilst browsing the V8 CJ's on ebay.com.

It got me thinking (and drooling) about importing my own.

I think that's a whole new subject for another time though! (maybe one day).
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Post by: UniformMovie on April 20, 2005, 09:26:39 AM
Hi all

Found best prices so far on tinternet for BFG's

30x9.5x15 A/T  for £82.19 each Inc Vat

from tyresonline.net  I had to ring them to get the price that size not listed on the website, over 40 ex-stock in the warehouse collect from Birmingham City Centre so no delivery charge.

They also do BFG Mud's, very nice friendly chap 0870 746 4742
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Post by: UniformMovie on April 20, 2005, 10:16:53 AM
Finaly got an e-mail back from Paddock spares with a quote, might be of interest:...........

The currect price on the 30/9.5R15 general grabber AT is £61.00 each.
Carriage would be £25.00
 
All prices are subject to vat @ 17.5%