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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Dave69 on November 21, 2006, 01:15:36 PM

Title: add a leaf
Post by: Dave69 on November 21, 2006, 01:15:36 PM
does anyone have a picture instruction on the process of adding a add a leaf system to a leaf spring pack safely ?

had the td leaf spring packs delivered from lighthouse last week. Just pondering whether to order the RE lift kit from FTE this side of christmass or not, but want to be sure on how to fit the add a leaf safely
Title: Re: add a leaf
Post by: tim_aka_tim on November 21, 2006, 01:48:15 PM
Quote from: "Dave69"
does anyone have a picture instruction on the process of adding a add a leaf system to a leaf spring pack safely ?

had the td leaf spring packs delivered from lighthouse last week. Just pondering whether to order the RE lift kit from FTE this side of christmass or not, but want to be sure on how to fit the add a leaf safely


I've got a Rusty's lift myself, so here's an article on installing their 2" add-a leaf lift http://http://members.tripod.com/Jeep_n_John/lift.html. Should be similar for any add-a-leaf.

With the bonkers exchange rate at the moment, I'd be ordering a lift from the States.
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Post by: Dave69 on November 21, 2006, 02:15:37 PM
thanks for that
 am i safe to guess the add a leaf is positioned (sandwiched) in between the existing leafs with a longer one above and a shorter one below ?
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on November 21, 2006, 02:32:34 PM
Quote from: "Dave69"
am i safe to guess the add a leaf is positioned (sandwiched) in between the existing leafs with a longer one above and a shorter one below ?


Yep. (Though someone will probably come along and say not  :wink: )
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Post by: ponyracer1 on November 21, 2006, 07:22:43 PM
Ya that's right. They go under the top leaf, above the rest. Don't fit it if you can do shackles or blocks, they will make your truck ride like an empty one ton dually truck!!
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Post by: ponyracer1 on November 21, 2006, 07:23:50 PM
Ya that's right. They go under the top leaf, above the rest. Don't fit it if you can do shackles or blocks, they will make your truck ride like an empty one ton dually truck!! If you've never ridden in one of those, picture welding your axle to the frame and drive down the road. Similar feeling in your lower back!!
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Post by: Bubba on November 21, 2006, 09:32:06 PM
if you are a fat bastard like me and greg you wont notice anything diferent
Title: Re: add a leaf
Post by: Psychoman on November 22, 2006, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: "Dave69"
does anyone have a picture instruction on the process of adding a add a leaf system to a leaf spring pack safely ?

had the td leaf spring packs delivered from lighthouse last week. Just pondering whether to order the RE lift kit from FTE this side of christmass or not, but want to be sure on how to fit the add a leaf safely


Don't go add-a-leaf is the short answer. The RE full replacement rear spring kit is only slightly dearer than the add-a-leaf version and gives more lift and a better ride.
Title: Re: add a leaf
Post by: tim_aka_tim on November 22, 2006, 01:11:34 PM
Quote from: "Psychoman"
Don't go add-a-leaf is the short answer. The RE full replacement rear spring kit is only slightly dearer than the add-a-leaf version and gives more lift and a better ride.


 :wink:)
Title: Re: add a leaf
Post by: barttheguinnessguy on November 25, 2006, 06:10:07 PM
Quote from: "tim_aka_tim"
Add-a-leafs won't flex the same as proper spings, cus at the end of the day, they're still TD springs, and are a compromise for better on-road handling.

Bodged together lifts are worse than no lift (as some have learnt the hard way :imwitstupid: Dont do it. If a jobs worth doing, its worth doing right :wink:
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Post by: jonathanhann on November 25, 2006, 07:21:19 PM
How about original spec leaf springs, ie explorer, plus 1" lift shackles at the rear??? :?:
I need to stop my cherokee draggging its arse around, and maybe lift it a bit but keeping original size wheels>
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on November 25, 2006, 08:26:07 PM
Looking at your avatar picture, if you fitted a set of XJ diesel rear springs, it'd lift the rear about 3 inches.
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Post by: barttheguinnessguy on November 25, 2006, 09:05:13 PM
This is my 96 xj with saggy springs and stock wheels

(http://http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/barttheguinnessguy/without.jpg)

And this is the same car with a different set of stock wheels, but they are the same size (do you recognise them Mike?) after fitting Diesel springs from Mansfield 4x4 and a Rocky Roads budget lift. I would defo go for a lift imported from the US wit the exchange rates at the mo

(http://http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/barttheguinnessguy/with.jpg)

We got an astounding amount of lift, and previously the axle had been rubbing on the bump stops :shock:

For more info on how we did it and costings etc take a look at http://http://www.thatjeep.com

Hope this helps
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Post by: jonathanhann on November 28, 2006, 01:08:45 PM
Now thats what i'm talking about! Im fed up with the low rider look now, cheers!
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Post by: barttheguinnessguy on November 29, 2006, 02:47:37 PM
You are most welcome. Let us know how you get on :wink:
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Post by: Sam on November 29, 2006, 08:50:32 PM
Hiya everyone, I havent posted before (enjoy reading the banter though). this thread interested me as i had the same dilema when i bought my cherokee in august. The back end was really sad and seriously needed a lift so i could get decent tyres on it.

as i arnet made of money - rather than go for an expensive lift kit i (for the first time in my life) did what my dad told me to do (he's a mech engineer so knows his stuff). i rang and asked a local auto spring manufacturer to make me some custom springs - i just rang and told them year and make of the car and asked for 3" over standard rear leafs BUT i told them i did not want extra leafs as i still wanted good articulation (i didnt want to feel like i was on a bone shaker) so i needed them ''more curved''. the bloke knew exactly what i meant and made them up for me in a week (£65 each). I can really recommend this method as the car feels ace and the lift was great And even i can change a simple leaf spring - i did have to buy the bushes from the dealer though but i think they were only about £20-£30. i also had to get extended shocks and brake line but the whole thing was way under £100 all together and easy to fit at home myself.

it went from this
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/sam123tom/langley%20farm/PICT1618-1.jpg)
the tyres were well up in the arches

to this
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/sam123tom/ocktoberfrick%202006/Photo-0030.jpg)
im only little and have to jump to shut the boot now :lol:

sorry about the essay :D
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Post by: Dave69 on November 30, 2006, 08:15:20 AM
who made the springs for you or was it done as a favour ?

lightouse are a bit cheaper than a main delear for parts
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Post by: daggie on November 30, 2006, 10:59:37 AM
jump up to the boot  :rotflmao:
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Post by: barttheguinnessguy on November 30, 2006, 05:14:25 PM
Nice one Sam. Looks good too :D
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Post by: Sam on November 30, 2006, 06:34:37 PM
Quote from: "Dave69"
who made the springs for you or was it done as a favour ?

lightouse are a bit cheaper than a main delear for parts


BRIGG SPRINGS (north lincolnshire)

Brigg Motorsprings Ltd
telephone: 01652 653280
79 Bridge St, Brigg. DN20 8NF

they make all kinds of springs for all kinds of autos. they also do u-bolts etc.

Real nice geezers - it was nice to deal with someone on the phone who didnt patronise me for being female. :D
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Post by: Bubba on November 30, 2006, 07:28:07 PM
i know a guy in the midlands
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Post by: barttheguinnessguy on December 01, 2006, 08:03:53 AM
Quote from: "V8 Bubba"
i know a guy in the midlands


Me too, would that be Jones Springs in Darlaston?
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Post by: Bubba on December 01, 2006, 06:09:17 PM
no phil gb springs brierly hill