Post by: Warthog on January 20, 2007, 01:18:41 PM
But on paper, i dropped a Boo,boo! The bearings i specced up are £70 each, need 4 off....Doh
Any comments?
I know this is a critical componant. So safety issue's have been cosidered and the images are in mock up. Making as an excercise to see whats possible :)
Has anyone got any images of the Warn Hubs you can get?
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Tenbulls/DSC00112.jpg)
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Tenbulls/DSC00111.jpg)
(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Tenbulls/DSC00110.jpg)
Post by: ponyracer1 on January 20, 2007, 04:33:00 PM
Guy's in the states that don't play in rocks are running up to 38's on a dana 30 with stock shafts and X760 U joints. I wouldn't but it's do-able.
Does look good though, if you need bearings post up the number and I'll see what I can source from "other" country's.
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 20, 2007, 04:48:43 PM
Post by: Warthog on January 20, 2007, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: "ponyracer1"
Um why???? All your going to do is move the "fuse" farther into the axle. Unless your modding the carrier also bigger shafts will have to neck down to go into the stock carrier. When running big tires on the D30 the shaft ears/U joint is the weak link. If you go with alloy shafts/CTM's then the ring and pinion become the weak link.
Guy's in the states that don't play in rocks are running up to 38's on a dana 30 with stock shafts and X760 U joints. I wouldn't but it's do-able.
Does look good though, if you need bearings post up the number and I'll see what I can source from "other" country's.
Very good point on moving the next weakest link to another area :arrow: Too be able to replace the bearings only, at reduced cost.
Cost of the Hub assemblies are high, so im told? £170 each (Asylum paid from Lighthouse, i believe)As to the shaft ears and UJ, bet thats why you have turned to Yota front axle? Monster CV joints and Shafts as stock...
Been looking at Toyota 80 rear for my Lardy and Nissan Patrol for the front............BUT
UNIMOG IS THE WAY TO GO
Post by: MK1 on January 20, 2007, 05:49:20 PM
It has a locker, chrome shafts and huge Ox joints. He said the R+P was now the weak spot, especially with a 360 fitted!
He fitted fuse links into the Warn hubs to help a little, but still blew it eventually.
Post by: ponyracer1 on January 20, 2007, 06:18:03 PM
Good idea on the replaceable bearings. Provided you can get them for less than 70 quid each!!!
Post by: Warthog on January 20, 2007, 07:27:36 PM
Quote from: "ponyracer1"
After looking at the cost I've decided to stay with the D30/8.8 combo. She'll stand up to 35's, prob 37's in this country if driven somewhat sensibly.
Good idea on the replaceable bearings. Provided you can get them for less than 70 quid each!!!
I think Asylum was hoping you would go the Mogster way
Yota and Nissan Parts are pricey here (UK) :( Have been looking for a good breakers, but they are far and few.....
As to the bearings, will have a look into alternatives. £70 was for TIMKEN Double Spherical roller. Double or single roller bearings, may suffice?
Post by: ponyracer1 on January 20, 2007, 09:19:47 PM
Post by: isle of man on January 20, 2007, 09:23:34 PM
a citroen but they cost £60gbp each.
why don't you just source the uni bearing from the usa they are only about $110usd.
warn front hubs are hardcore................nice.
peter henry
Post by: ponyracer1 on January 20, 2007, 09:31:15 PM
Quote from: "isle of man"
warn front hubs are hardcore................nice.
peter henry
Unless you really want to get crazy, billa vista on pirate I think it was did a right up of putting Cj dana 30 ineer knuckles and the outers with lockouts on an xj dana 30. Lot of work but it saved like $1000.
Post by: isle of man on January 20, 2007, 10:26:50 PM
Quote from: "ponyracer1"
Quote from: "isle of man"
warn front hubs are hardcore................nice.
peter henry
Unless you really want to get crazy, billa vista on pirate I think it was did a right up of putting Cj dana 30 ineer knuckles and the outers with lockouts on an xj dana 30. Lot of work but it saved like $1000.
yes but warn has those fuse rings that tear before the shaft and can be changed in less than 10 min's on the trial l believe.
really is i nice bit of kit, expensive i admit but truly hardcore.
i have the d60 version on the front of my wrangler
peter henry
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 21, 2007, 09:21:02 AM
Post by: JamesH on January 21, 2007, 10:14:00 AM
Post by: ponyracer1 on January 21, 2007, 12:04:35 PM
Quote from: "JamesH"
I have seen a Dana 30 R&P destroyed on a vehicle with Warn hub fuses. It seems the fuse was too strong for a TJ D30 running 35s to work as it should. An XJ D30 is stronger in that department though so maybe it would correct the problem?
The TJ/XJ D30 is identical. The only diff is the TJ is low pinion as is the 99+ XJ's.
Does the low pinion ride on the coast side of the gears? If so they would be a little weaker but not much.
Post by: JamesH on January 21, 2007, 12:24:04 PM
I'm not 100% whether it's due to riding on the coast side of the gears but HP vs LP the HP is the stronger - hence why people hunt out HP D44 fronts in the states so much.
I think trussing helps a lot with R&P breakages as the housing can't flex as much and distort the gear-mesh.
I can only speak from what I've read and the few breakages I've seen as I haven't run big enough tyres or thrashed mine hard enough to break my D30 yet.
Post by: ponyracer1 on January 21, 2007, 01:31:25 PM
Post by: Bubba on January 21, 2007, 10:27:01 PM