Post by: cartman on May 09, 2005, 09:06:42 AM
Now I knew this would weigh more than the original petrol tank but how this would affect the rear ride height I did not know - untill we picked it up. The height has dropped about 2" from std and before the springs looked in good condition with only 56k on the clock and never having towed or carried regular heavy loads.
So the decision is probably to fit new rear springs but as to what type and spring rate. Now 1-1.5" over standard ride height would not be an issue.
Anyone have any preferences on suppliers or specs or had experience of this before (I know XJ all suffer from light rated rears anyway).
Cheers, Paul
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 09:28:52 AM
Post by: Mike Pavelin on May 09, 2005, 11:47:42 AM
If the springs are in good nick why not go for a couple of add-a-leafs?
Post by: chrisjones on May 09, 2005, 04:56:17 PM
How do you know if your backsides saggy?
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Post by: chrisjones on May 09, 2005, 05:32:55 PM
Go on, tell me, I can take it.
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 05:40:12 PM
Post by: chrisjones on May 09, 2005, 06:00:12 PM
1) Unladen, the back should sit higher than the front.
2) I need new springs and from what I've read elsewhere on the forum, it can be a pig of a job.
3) I'd be better of going for the TD springs 'cos they're higher. a) Would I need new longer shocks? b) would it be a good idea to fit TD fronts as well, do they work or is the 6 pot engine heavier?
4) Stock springs are s**t and don't last. So are there alternative replacements that are more durable.
5) How much should I be looking to pay for new springs
6) (The cheeky bit!) Anyone going to offer to lend a hand AND anyone got a drive/space I can borrow, 'cos I have on street parking (in a VERY narrow street)
HELP PLEASE!!!!!! :Hangman:
Post by: cartman on May 09, 2005, 06:42:28 PM
I will probably get someone like MDG to do it as I have so much on at the moment here (rebuilding the house after a major fire on Jan 2). Otherwise I would do not meesell. It cannot be any harder than those on my S2a Land Rover after all?
In my case I will prob bell MDG in Pompey for their advice and and add-a-leaf is far cheaper than new springs unless some nice diesel ones come to hand. I have to stick the XJ on some level ground and remeasure the rear arch but before it went in they were at 17" or as near as dammit on both sides.
On the subject of LPG how's yours doing. is it sequential injection of vapourizer on the intake; milage to a tank etc.
Post by: chrisjones on May 09, 2005, 07:09:40 PM
As for the LPG it's a vapourizer and despite everything people say there is hardly any noticable drop off in performance. I'm probably not the best person to ask about milage, I've had the gas pedel screwed to the floor
However, for what it's worth, I do 50 miles a day on winding country lanes and get about 140 miles out of 44ltrs. So thats what, 3.18 mile per litre. which is about 14.5 miles to the gallon.
Hum, doesn't sound so good when you put it like that. Maybe I should take that screw out!!
But at 39p a litre- who cares!!!!
Before all you petrol heads start saying 'What's the point' I've just done a bit more maths. Thats the same as 32.62 miles to the gallon working on the price of petrol. That sounds MUCH better- the screw stays!!.
EAT MY GAS!!!!
Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2005, 07:17:20 PM
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Post by: chrisjones on May 10, 2005, 11:36:08 AM
They also do Air Shocks that can be pumped up to adjust ride height @ £136.90+vat (£160.86).
Anyone got any experience of these, are they any good? If they are, they sound like a much easier fix- just replacing the shocks instead of taking the whole rear end to bits.
Post by: UniformMovie on May 10, 2005, 12:37:03 PM
Just got my budget lift kit from Mountain Jacks. Should
be fitted on Saturday, i'll do some before and after pics as well.
£105 all in for pucks at the front ans add a leafs. Decided against shackles cos they can be hard to fit.
Post by: chrisjones on May 10, 2005, 01:01:26 PM
Post by: Tank on May 10, 2005, 05:33:43 PM
Post by: chrisjones on May 10, 2005, 07:02:19 PM
I might just take you up on that offer of help.
As far as I can tell from the short phone conversation, there is no compressor, the shocks are pumped up from a standard garage air supply.
Have to say I didn't know you could get anything like it, but the ones you have sound very interesting I must say. Would they do the trick though?
I'd deffinately be interested in buying them off you though if your selling.
Post by: Tank on May 10, 2005, 09:23:52 PM
Post by: chrisjones on May 11, 2005, 11:28:32 AM
He's spoken to their suppliers who are suggesting either:
1) Skyjacker add-a-leaf kit at £119 - can be fitted without taking everything appart
2) Skyjacker 2" hd springs @ £209 - better job, much more work
Both with shipping of about £30
Anyone with more experience got any advice?
PLEASE... :?
Post by: Bubba on May 11, 2005, 12:38:05 PM
Post by: chrisjones on May 11, 2005, 01:13:26 PM
Now; that is an option
Have to start saving.
Anyone know anybody who might be interested in some scuba diving gear?????
Post by: Bubba on May 11, 2005, 01:27:19 PM
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Post by: chrisjones on May 11, 2005, 04:01:12 PM
:lol: :lol:
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Post by: chrisjones on May 11, 2005, 07:18:09 PM
'They never proved nuffink!!!' :twisted:
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Post by: UniformMovie on May 16, 2005, 10:44:18 AM
New pic in my album
The lift went well. Only added the rear add a leafs cos we ran out of time on staurday. Took all morning to do the 4 tyres and the springs. Tyres were a b*tch to fit took four of us to do each wheel.
Anyway check out the pic, I'm very happy with the result. In two minds about adding the pucks to the front. I like the slightly tail up stance.
Andy
Post by: chrisjones on May 17, 2005, 07:58:16 AM
How did it go? - only asking 'cos I'll be doing Chilli Cherry soon.
Post by: cartman on May 17, 2005, 08:35:27 AM
Looks like we are going to go with Procomp uprated rears and ES9000 at each corner. This should put it about an inch higher than new std which is sweet for me. If I want more later I can swap the shackles.
I did E-mail MDG but they didn't even reply so that's their loss to the tune of +£300 !
Paul
Post by: UniformMovie on May 18, 2005, 12:01:27 PM
Image is in my album on the forum
http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/ ... user_id=83 (http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/album_personal.php?user_id=83)
Work went fine used my brother's workshop. 2 post lift, air tools etc. Most of the bolts came apart no problem. Did one side at a time and used a jack to support the axle. The spring packs were rusty but ok the helper spring on one side was already broken and only held together with clips.
The kit come with two sizes of bolts to use when adding the leaf, i did'nt realise this straight away and spent a few minutes swearing at Mountain Jacks (sorry guys) when the bolts did'nt fit until Pete said try the other bolts in the bag and hey presto.
Used a grinder to take off the top of the bolts when done since they fouled the anti roll bar.
Other than that no worries. The tyres were the big problem and took most of the time. We started at around 8.45 finished by 12ish after washing the car as well.
Andy
Post by: horobi on May 18, 2005, 01:24:16 PM
