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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: wazza on September 02, 2007, 11:13:23 PM

Title: my project
Post by: wazza on September 02, 2007, 11:13:23 PM
firstly i have to appologise as ill not be at cheap fest like i said, cos she aint finnished.
 the build so far started off as J20 dana 44 front an 60 rear with custom shafts an ox lockers all sat under claytons 8inch long arm an rear coil conversion.
that changed when i bought a set of unimog 404 axles :twisted:

the befor pics- 8inch lift, 33's, 4.10 geared.
(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/902_befor_1.jpg)
(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/902_befor2_1.jpg)

to be honest there was nothing wrong with her as she sat besides needing long arms.
but anyway this is how she sits tonight, sorry for the pics being a bit dark but i only took them half hour ago.
(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/902_work_in_prog5_1.jpg)
(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/902_work_in_prog1_1.jpg)
(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/902_work_in_prog6_1.jpg)
(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/902_work_in_prog2_1.jpg)
i have more progress pics on my phone but not uploaded them onto the computer yet.

the rears only temporary!!!! if the front LA's work then ill do the same to the rear as ive made them up myself,
 the shocks are 14inch 5150's all round an i didn't fancy turreting them into the boot (like my original plan) untill i know what im doing regarding coiling it!

its actually still sat on the 8 inch lift with the extra hight of the axles, ive also moved the front axle forward 4inches to help with the huge tyres ill be fitting!!!

the wheels in the pics are the original 20x 9's an tyres are 10.5x20 which stand about 38inches tall> :D

whats left on the todo list is-
front shock mounts,
brakes / disk conversion,
steering bars an hydro assist,
propshafts,
wheels an tyres.
the Dreaded MOT, TAX an INSURANCE.

unfortunately time has been a big problem otherwise it should of been done by now!!! :(
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Post by: chrisjones on September 02, 2007, 11:21:32 PM
She looked good before!

Can't wait to see the finished job.  Shame about not being ready for Cheapfest though.

Awesome work! 8)
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Post by: greggmo on September 02, 2007, 11:33:53 PM
looks cool. i would look at some serious body streng mods next for sure cos i recon them there axles and wheeles are heavier than the jeep by a fair bit. 8)
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Post by: Bubba on September 03, 2007, 05:18:06 AM
i like lots :)  :)  :)
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Post by: isle of man on September 03, 2007, 06:56:18 AM
good effort, looking forward to seeing it in the flesh.




peter henry
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Post by: Carlos Fandango on September 03, 2007, 10:11:24 AM
It looked a ace before  :shock:

dont forget tho, you will have to get it out of the garage......will it fit? :lol:
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Post by: Asylum on September 03, 2007, 11:31:01 AM
Looks awsome.

What are you doing with your old axles/lockers etc?

 8)
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Post by: tedthefed on September 03, 2007, 05:45:54 PM
Same as Carlos.  Will the garage have to be demolished to remove the ............  what name is it going to be    ????
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Post by: 15mpg.wtf on September 03, 2007, 05:48:39 PM
wont you get a nosebleed being that high :wink:
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Post by: MOCAJ on September 03, 2007, 07:09:45 PM
thats going to be an amazing truck  8)
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Post by: wazza on September 03, 2007, 07:13:29 PM
it will come out the garage!!!!

it will be on blocks of wood an winched out by my friend yj but it will come out!!!! :lol:
i was thinking of pulling it out on trolleys but there's no brakes an i didn't get any offers for cars (brakes) to be parked at the end of the drive to stop it hitting the wall on other side of the road!

old axles went a couple of months ago to south wales to someone off difflock.

as for a name she hasn't really ever had one besides being my little princess, since a friend stuck one of those little fome heads on her arial which was i little pink princess.

the hight is as it is because even with 8 inches the pinion an diff are still quite friendly with the sump an bell housing, ill get some close up pics posted later.
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Post by: Asylum on September 03, 2007, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: "wazza"

old axles went a couple of months ago to south wales to someone off difflock.



BUGGER!!!

Are you going to regear the mogs or put a Atlas or something in?

 8)
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Post by: wazza on September 04, 2007, 07:26:08 AM
how do you mean? what do you recoment???

the final drive ration of the mogs is 7.56-1, so its pretty low.
im looking at running something like a 46inch tyre but calculations still say its gonna be very low geared.
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Post by: lefty on September 04, 2007, 03:35:59 PM
Nice project  8)

404 axles are seriously strong things - they're designed to cope with the high compression M130 and M180 engines (anything up to 190hp) and should be fine with 46" tyres. I've got MPT's on my 404 that measure 41" and they're fine with the measly 80-odd horses.

You going to use speed-rated agri tyres??

Straightforward supplies will make beadlocking wheels for the 404 axles... They do a disc brake conversion too that uses disco s1 calipers/discs/pads.


Oh by the way, in answer to a question above about weight, a front 404 axle with the reduction drives and diff is about 320kg  :o
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Post by: wazza on September 04, 2007, 07:03:25 PM
im trying to get in touch with straight forward at the moment to order the brakes. ive already got everything else off him (pinion conversion, high steer arms, hydro steer kit)

(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/902_wheels_1.jpg)

these are the wheels im after. looking at the lack of clearance on the portal hub im gonna stick with 20inch rims an probly 12 or 14 wide double beadlocks :lol:
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Post by: isle of man on September 04, 2007, 07:18:03 PM
look here for wheel and tyre deal..... http://http://www.stazworks.com/




peter henry
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Post by: Asylum on September 04, 2007, 10:57:36 PM
Quote from: "wazza"
how do you mean? what do you recoment???

the final drive ration of the mogs is 7.56-1, so its pretty low.
im looking at running something like a 46inch tyre but calculations still say its gonna be very low geared.


Is the final drive of 7.56 including the hub reduction?

 8)
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Post by: wazza on September 05, 2007, 05:24:59 PM
your spot on!!!

here's the funny part the diff ratio is 3.55-1 same as a standard 4litre cherry or yj

 :banghead:
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Post by: Asylum on September 05, 2007, 10:36:01 PM
Shurely if your gonna run 46's then a 7.56 ratio aint going to be too overgeared if you know what I mean?

At least you will be able to use your high and low box.

 8)
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Post by: wazza on September 07, 2007, 10:00:35 PM
http://www.4lo.com/calc/geartable.htm (http://www.4lo.com/calc/geartable.htm)

found this an id have a guess the 46's will be in  /just out of the power range an ideal tyre to gearing would probly be a 49ish.

it'll be like 4.56 with say 31's
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Post by: wazza on March 31, 2008, 08:31:43 PM
TA DAA :-D
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Post by: Bubba on March 31, 2008, 10:00:23 PM
fuck thas gonna kin one ard bastard
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Post by: George Stoyanov on April 01, 2008, 07:06:34 PM
I am in love with that rig, man  :lol:
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Post by: Dave69 on April 01, 2008, 07:35:36 PM
so what's the next project ?  a roof chop or a modification to the garage door. looks like it's a pain to take the tyres off just to get it into the garage
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Post by: Carlos Fandango on April 01, 2008, 08:21:58 PM
ooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrr!!!!

I like that..............I like that alot
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Post by: isle of man on April 01, 2008, 09:17:00 PM
looks capable.........lose the ghay bull bar though.
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Post by: greggmo on April 02, 2008, 09:33:46 PM
8-) cool. lookin good dood.
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Post by: Bulldog67 on April 02, 2008, 09:48:21 PM
Quote from: "isle of man"
looks capable.........lose the ghay bull bar though.


beginning to think you're overly fond of the ghay description IOM  :lol:
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Post by: king cj on April 03, 2008, 08:09:54 PM
you will probably find the gearing about right on 46s because of the extra weight of the axles and the wheels and tyres, getting 46s rolling is alot harder than getting 31s going!