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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: RockingDad on March 21, 2008, 02:02:46 PM

Title: CB noob questions
Post by: RockingDad on March 21, 2008, 02:02:46 PM
Some questions for the CB elite among us......

1. On the CB unit I have it's rated at 13.2v....will it function ok on the GC      12v circuit?

2. I have a 'power mic' with tone and volume controls...any good? what does it do over a standard cb mic? Also this mic has a four pin connector that then attaches to another cable with the DIN connector on the end for attacheing to the unit. What are the standard names for these connectors so i can purchase the correct connectors for extending the cable. If i wanted to just use a standard mic what would be the difference and are they universal?

3. I'm guessing i just need cable (What coax type) mount and ariel. I'm going to buy a quick disconnect to remove the antenna when not in use. Is there any disadvantage to this signal wise?

4. Is it just a case of cable screw into unit, screw into mount, antenna screw into mount, tune antenna? I'm assuming that if the mount is grounded on the body of the vehicle thats ok?

lastly I have two cobra two way radios....would the frequencies these work on be able to communicate with the cb?

Any other useful tips greatfully received!

Cheers

RockingDad(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/1206_CB_and_Mic_1.jpg)
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 21, 2008, 02:04:08 PM
Dunno  :lol:
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Post by: Bulldog67 on March 21, 2008, 02:07:09 PM
:lol:
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 21, 2008, 02:44:55 PM
"never knowingly turned down a bacon sarnie"

I did once, bugger wasnt I pissed when I realised what I done :cry:
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Post by: Bulldog67 on March 21, 2008, 03:51:47 PM
:lol:
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Post by: Bishops Finger on March 21, 2008, 04:42:32 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm bacon :lol:
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 21, 2008, 05:28:42 PM
Bacon was cooked on a barby too!! :prayer:
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Post by: PtP on March 21, 2008, 05:40:24 PM
I’ve been more than impressed with the service I’ve had from this C B Radio supplier near to where I live. There is a shop which is open 6 day a week and the owner has been selling CBs for as long as they have been around! He’s also race-prepares 4x4 Land Rover based vehicles.

There was a very nice gesture made by the owner and that was; if anyone has any CB related problems with their equipment, that he will try and answer the queries by email.

His details are as follows:

Roy Hart
C. B. Radio Shop
92 Lea Street
Kidderminster
01562 744204
racerroy@talktalt.net
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Post by: RockingDad on March 21, 2008, 07:27:24 PM
Cheers PTP
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Post by: greggmo on March 21, 2008, 08:57:29 PM
the cb wont receive the radios you mentioned. a disconnect set up shouldn't affect your signal. dont expect amazing range from a cb cos it wont happen 8-)
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Post by: Bulldog67 on March 21, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
ptp & gregmo: no mention of bacon! what gives? have you no shame  :banghard:
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Post by: greggmo on March 21, 2008, 09:33:38 PM
dont see the connection to cb radio's. i too enjoy bacon but it wont fix yer cb. also tryin to help the guy with his  tech question.
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 21, 2008, 09:58:20 PM
How could they not mention the said sacred bacon sandwich, tuh!!

prey to the god of bacon sarnie :prayer:  :prayer: :prayer:
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Post by: Bulldog67 on March 21, 2008, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: "greggmo"
dont see the connection to cb radio's. i too enjoy bacon but it wont fix yer cb.


i almost had to turn away, the shame of it, how can you look yourself in the mirror: BACON FIXES EVERYTHING!  :lol:
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 21, 2008, 10:30:35 PM
Ok ok sorry, cant help it, bacon :prayer: was spotted and I went off on one, Oh the bacon banjo, STOP IT :smt075

The cb is rated above 12volt because the alternator charges above 12 volts, and the mic is powered because it probably has functions, ie channel up/down, may be wrong on that though.

The rest I dont know about, did get into cb's years ago but sold all my stuff but would like to get back into it again, been looking at this cb just of late...

http://www.kcb.co.uk/shop2/contents/media/TCB770.gif (http://www.kcb.co.uk/shop2/contents/media/TCB770.gif)

Supposed to be quite good so when i get the time to go off roading or greenlaning then I can keep in touch for free.

Wish we could use the old AM sets though, much better for distance.
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Post by: RockingDad on March 21, 2008, 11:36:12 PM
Quote from: "greggmo"
dont see the connection to cb radio's. i too enjoy bacon but it wont fix yer cb. also tryin to help the guy with his  tech question.


Thanks Greggmo, I've been told that you should get a few miles out of a decent setup.

Like the look of that CB unit you got your eye on DW. I picked one up cheap for my first...see how i'll get on with it. Whats that unit costing?


RockingDad
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Post by: MK1 on March 21, 2008, 11:50:34 PM
It's rated at 13.2v because that's what a '12v' battery actually is when charged to absolute maximum. Six cells at 2.2v each.
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 22, 2008, 01:45:15 AM
Quote from: "RockingDad"
Quote from: "greggmo"
dont see the connection to cb radio's. i too enjoy bacon but it wont fix yer cb. also tryin to help the guy with his  tech question.

Thanks Greggmo, I've been told that you should get a few miles out of a decent setup.

Like the look of that CB unit you got your eye on DW. I picked one up cheap for my first...see how i'll get on with it. Whats that unit costing?


RockingDad


Its around £65.00 but I guess I'll be spending around £120.00 by the time I sort an antenna and cabling and swr meter out, Oh and maybe a little burner perhaps, get a little distance from on high somewhere, but keep that bit quiet, shhhh :-$
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Post by: RockingDad on March 22, 2008, 10:36:56 AM
Burner?????
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Post by: PtP on March 22, 2008, 10:42:42 AM
I recall I spent only around £75 - £80 for a brand new set-up which included the rig, antennal, cables etc. etc..... Give Roy a shout in Kidderminster or Google search for a local supplier.

If you spend £65 on what looks like a very old rig you just don't know what you're getting.

For the little extra, I'd go for brand new with instruction book and latest whip antenna etc!
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Post by: PtP on March 22, 2008, 10:56:43 AM
Don't bother with a burner!

It might give you more range, but it won't help you receive someone you're burning out to a long way away!

From my experience you really only use your CB whilst green laning or whilst on play days and in reality, you only ever need to communicate with someone in your convoy or on the play site, so a one mile radius is the maximum you will ever need.

The small handheld PMR transceivers work on a completely different set of frequencies and will not work with a CB. They are handy to have though as sometimes when I go out laning, not everyone has a CB fitted and these small PMRs are great for chatting whilst in a convoy situation and I find you can always share them out assuming you have a pair or more!
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 22, 2008, 01:43:38 PM
Quote from: "RockingDad"
Burner?????


Its a power amp!! generally cb's transmit at 4watts max, but a burner will boost the power significantly. Had one back in the early days when us was on the old AM sets

Its like grilling a small piece of bacon only downstairs will smell it, but fry a huge piece, the whole house maybe the neighbours will catch a wiff too!!
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Post by: Bulldog67 on March 22, 2008, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: "demonicwillow"
 Its like grilling a small piece of bacon only downstairs will smell it, but fry a huge piece, the whole house maybe the neighbours will catch a wiff too!!


 :lol: and thats something you will never ever get from muesli
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 22, 2008, 02:15:51 PM
Can we have a section on the forum index for bacon :lol:
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Post by: Bulldog67 on March 22, 2008, 02:24:37 PM
:applaudit:  :applaudit:  :applaudit:  :applaudit:
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Post by: MOCAJ on March 22, 2008, 04:18:16 PM
just start a thread in general called bacon :roll:
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 22, 2008, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: "PtP"
If you spend £65 on what looks like a very old rig you just don't know what you're getting.


This is a new rig, well I assume it is, but I also found a forum on CB's I searched for CB forums and eventually found one, but there are several internet sites who are selling equipment new and used and they all appear priced around the same for what ever you want, in fact I am surprised on how extensive the amount of equipment there is out there.

http://www.citizensbandradio.org/ (http://www.citizensbandradio.org/)
http://www.thunderpole.co.uk/forum/ (http://www.thunderpole.co.uk/forum/)
http://www.transmission1.co.uk/index.ph ... wforum&f=2 (http://www.transmission1.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewforum&f=2)

"burnt pig" Tuh! [-(
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on March 22, 2008, 04:57:27 PM
That CB in the picture is a CEPT only rig (the PR27GB label). It's legal to use here, but only has the EU channels. Everyone in the UK uses the UK only channels.
It's a rare rig, but sadly not much use in the UK - it can't tx/rx our frequencies.
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Post by: Bulldog67 on March 22, 2008, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: "my other cars a jeep"
and leave alone the tech section, folks want help on here, not burnt pig  :lol:

but point taken, im off to the bacon thread in general  :smt006 bye
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Post by: MOCAJ on March 22, 2008, 06:41:34 PM
deleted the last post as its a duplicate

please keep tech to tech and bacon to general, thanks
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Post by: Bubba on March 22, 2008, 07:15:32 PM
yup thats fair after all you wouldnt try to access the internet with a banana would you so tech in tech as it is for helpfull advice/comments
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Post by: MOCAJ on March 22, 2008, 07:29:05 PM
bullldog, message deleted again

please take the hint.

we all like a bit of fun on here but when folk want help, please let them get it first then have a laugh

TA
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Post by: RockingDad on March 22, 2008, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: "tim_aka_tim"
That CB in the picture is a CEPT only rig (the PR27GB label). It's legal to use here, but only has the EU channels. Everyone in the UK uses the UK only channels.
It's a rare rig, but sadly not much use in the UK - it can't tx/rx our frequencies.


AHHH CRAP!!!!! So it's a paperweight in the UK then....the F***er who sold me it didn't mention that. Best I get another one then!

cheesed off now!
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on March 22, 2008, 08:50:54 PM
Quote from: "RockingDad"
Quote from: "tim_aka_tim"
That CB in the picture is a CEPT only rig (the PR27GB label). It's legal to use here, but only has the EU channels. Everyone in the UK uses the UK only channels.
It's a rare rig, but sadly not much use in the UK - it can't tx/rx our frequencies.

AHHH CRAP!!!!! So it's a paperweight in the UK then....the F***er who sold me it didn't mention that. Best I get another one then!

cheesed off now!


Sorry mate. There have been a lot of people either selling crap CBs on eBay, or getting rid of useless CBs that they bought off eBay in good faith.

Easiest place to get a CB is either track down your local CB shop, or, if you don't have one and want to feel and see it first, Maplin keep a perfectlt good one in stock, along with aerials and magmounts.

Make sure you get an 80 channel one marked "PR 27/97". All UK spec CBs made in the last 10 years do.

You need to be a bit experienced to know what you're getting off the bay.
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Post by: RockingDad on March 22, 2008, 09:44:36 PM
yeah...cheers for the info Tim......looking at the Midland 78 plus now.

Rockingdad
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Post by: MOCAJ on March 22, 2008, 09:49:51 PM
i got one of those, its a good rig  :smt023
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 22, 2008, 11:07:44 PM
Aparantly the new one I am thinking of in my link is compared to or equivalent to the midland 78 and the Danita 3000 whatever that is.

Just had a look and its a cb made in Denmark and there are specific models for uk etc
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Post by: RockingDad on March 23, 2008, 03:55:36 PM
Replaced it now with one of these:

http://www.kcb.co.uk/80ch/maycom.htm (http://www.kcb.co.uk/80ch/maycom.htm)


RD
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on March 23, 2008, 04:01:54 PM
Yeah, got one of those. Cracking set.
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Post by: demonicwillow on March 30, 2008, 01:38:51 PM
Just partaken in the purchase of said cb and bits, even put a few logs on the fire, bout 100 actually, :grinyes:  

 (http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/1130_TCB770_1.gif)

ITS HERE!!!! wow compact and beaugue (beejjuu)lol :grinyes:
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Post by: johnnythefridge on April 02, 2008, 08:35:02 PM
Just a thought about the burner. If you are going up on hilltop and want to spend some time chatting, make sure you can roll off from your parking space, because a 100W burner draws 200W from the battery.... My 2M Alinco DR112E was only 45W, but it finished the battery in less than an afternoon on top of Clent.

Regards,

Johny the fridge