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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: longman on July 16, 2008, 08:23:08 PM

Title: Swop square lamps for round.
Post by: longman on July 16, 2008, 08:23:08 PM
I have a YJ Wrangler with standard square headlamps. Is it possible to change to the better looking round lamps with a front grill/headlamp swop from another model ? Someone will have tryed this I'm shure.  :?:
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Post by: doublej on July 16, 2008, 08:41:43 PM
someone stateside on pirate4x4 did this. your suppose to be able to swap the grill, fenders, and hood.
now...... if you have todo all or not im not sure.
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on July 16, 2008, 09:50:01 PM
You need the front end from a CJ7
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Post by: longman on July 16, 2008, 09:57:41 PM
Sounds a bit involved. I may have to be a square and not a round'un. What were Jeep thinking of.
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Post by: doublej on July 17, 2008, 12:14:23 AM
i think it was all bolt on, if not it should be as simple as marking and drilling a couple new holes in the new grill and bolting up.
if it was me, find a decent priced one and have a go. the worse that happens is you have to ebay it.
if you want it - make it happen longman! just dont let me have a hand or itll never come back apart :twisted:
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Post by: Roland on July 17, 2008, 06:14:55 AM
Oi Longman . . . .  real Jeeps 'ave square headlights and leaf springs :oops:
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Post by: Mick O on July 17, 2008, 09:09:00 AM
The Docs right

You need the front of a CJ7

They should go on without to much hassle.

There was a realy nice white one at Cheapfest last year, dont know who owns it. But it was well cool 8-[  8-)
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Post by: doublej on July 17, 2008, 09:45:00 AM
you can use tj grill also, but finding a cj is probably easier
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Post by: longman on July 17, 2008, 09:56:36 AM
Sorry Roland, I know that square is the new round, it's just that I'd like a nice roundy. I need to park up next to a CJ and get out the tape and have a look.
Havn't seen any Jeeps near me in Devon, I bet they are out there ?
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Post by: Roland on July 17, 2008, 06:52:06 PM
On a serious note.
I don't think it is that easy, otherwise more people would have done it. Way back in the early 90's Howes Motors had a YJ with a "CJ face" called the Apache.
The only one I know belongs to Simon Redmond from the BucksJeepClub.
 To the best of my knowledge you have to have a grill, hood and wings from a CJ7 in order to make a proper job.  :-?

(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/35_apache_1.jpg)
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Post by: Nosebolt on July 17, 2008, 07:25:21 PM
not sure if this will help or if its even relevant but I did a round US to round UK light conversion don’t see why it shouldn't work with a bit of basic fab skill for a square to round (I do say this never having seen a square light grill up close :-? so stand ready to be told a list of why nots)

(http://http://worldwideweed.org/lights.jpg)

(http://http://worldwideweed.org/closeup.JPG)

(http://http://worldwideweed.org/lightssm.JPG)
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Post by: Bubba on July 17, 2008, 07:26:53 PM
i think you will find that you can reuse ya yj wings and just fit a cj bonnet and grill i am sure that is rik jaques did if you trawl birtys i think it is in a write up
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Post by: Roland on July 17, 2008, 07:39:31 PM
. . . . but if you keep the YJ wings, you will keep the ghaypods  :twisted:
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Post by: Bubba on July 17, 2008, 07:40:39 PM
same for the cj after 79
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Post by: MOCAJ on July 17, 2008, 07:42:13 PM
the dutch guys who used to go to Jeepfest all ran these CJ looking YJ's and there is a white one which comes to Cheapfest.

Search the net and you will find the info  :wink:
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Post by: Dave69 on July 17, 2008, 08:06:02 PM
havent been for the past few years but i remember those dutch guys, one had a white jeep with a nice v8 (IIRC), it went into the wood white and came out with a respray. All you could hear was they guy bouncing the engine off the limiter as he was plugging/ploughing his way through the mud
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Post by: doublej on July 17, 2008, 11:20:56 PM
nice - thats my kind of driver!
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Post by: Roland on July 18, 2008, 06:17:49 AM
:twisted: . . . . so be careful what you do to your Jeep   :banghard: :smt033
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Post by: Mick O on July 18, 2008, 08:32:43 AM
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but I think it is wrong to make your CJ look like a YJ or your YJ look like a CJ.


Works for me, love um all 8-)
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Post by: longman on July 18, 2008, 09:21:05 AM
WOW, thanks for all the input. You all seem to have a mountain of knowledge.Got some catching up to do. I'll sit and ponder for a bit, then spring into action  :-)
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Post by: wildwood on July 18, 2008, 11:12:08 AM
To try to con a punter that yours is a CJ is wrong but to adopt adapt and improve or 'customize' is totally acceptable a YJ tub and body and CJ clip with Dana 60s and corvette power with 40's thats fine as long as we all know what it is.
I plead guilty here... I run a Dana 300 and a Klune and the speedo on the YJ is now redundant for $100 I got an early new CJ speedo and $14 for the cable now I have a working speedo in the YJ. But...... you can buy blank CJ dashs from Quadratrac.... so that is my next route a YJ with CJ dash for about $150 bucks. nice...
On a domestic front if you can find a rotting grill (clip) and Bonnet (hood)
and the log book for a 72 or earlier CJ5 then use it and re-register as a rebuid.... save giving money to Gordon the caretaker and Alistair Arsewipe.
Just a thought.
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Post by: Tragic on July 20, 2008, 06:04:13 PM
Quote from: "Roland"
On a serious note.
I don't think it is that easy, otherwise more people would have done it. Way back in the early 90's Howes Motors had a YJ with a "CJ face" called the Apache.
The only one I know belongs to Simon Redmond from the BucksJeepClub.
 To the best of my knowledge you have to have a grill, hood and wings from a CJ7 in order to make a proper job.  :shock:. Yes, it is one of 25 converted by Howes and all of the CJ bits will fit a YJ no problem at all. Even the radiator is a YJ item.

But, as Roland says, real Jeeps have square headlights and leaf springs. Why spoil it? :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: doublej on July 22, 2008, 10:02:07 AM
Instructions and pics on fitting a TJ hood and grill on a YJ, electric fan, etc
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthre ... hood+grill (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248791&highlight=hood+grill)

knew i would find it again once i stopped looking. you do need more then i thought you would, but i still think it would be worth it.
get the parts and bring her by, well sort her in a couple hours.
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Post by: longman on July 22, 2008, 11:26:11 AM
Thanks Doublej, ( A.K.A the finder) The American dude seems to have done a great job. It will make it a lot easyer to do now, thanks for that !  My plan is to garage the YJ Oct/Nov. and do a lift, springs, suspention etc. Then do the cosmatic work. I'm going to loose the bling, so the stainless will be on ebag in the spring.
I just need to find some local DEVON Jeep'ers coz the wife and kids can only take so much of me talking Jeeps AT them. They try there best .