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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Bubba on January 11, 2009, 10:00:46 PM

Title: lead loading
Post by: Bubba on January 11, 2009, 10:00:46 PM
anyone do it or know how
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Post by: Bishops Finger on January 11, 2009, 10:06:17 PM
Isn't tat some shit you do witha 12 bore...?
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Post by: greggmo on January 11, 2009, 11:16:46 PM
is that whet they do on dented paneles rather than use filler? i could possibly do it cos i used to do a hell of a lot of lead soldering and filling on radiators. ya would need the liqid flux and the proper lead sticks though and i dont know where you would get em.
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Post by: Lornaben on January 11, 2009, 11:37:14 PM
Its used to fill small holes in rusted panels too. Watched it being done many moons ago. As always with a skilled job being done by an expert, it looked a piece of piss ......
When it was 'loaded' they used what looked like a surform to shape it and smooth it.
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Post by: greggmo on January 11, 2009, 11:43:19 PM
this.

http://freespace.virgin.net/tommy.sandham/leading.htm (http://freespace.virgin.net/tommy.sandham/leading.htm)
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Post by: Lornaben on January 11, 2009, 11:48:55 PM
Found this on tinterweb  8-)

http://http://www.sovereigncoachworks.com/page2/files/page2-1002-pop.html

Get the kit from here (including the surform thing) ....

http://http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8789&frostProductName=Standard+Solder+Kit&catID=29&subCatID=&FrostCat=Fillers&FrostSubcat=&ref=champ
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Post by: Tragic on January 12, 2009, 12:17:30 AM
I'm actually shit hot at it  :lol: .

Like all things, it takes a bit of practice but it's not difficult.
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Post by: Nosebolt on January 12, 2009, 09:13:54 AM
Did some 28 years ago, my old man was a coach builder, on my first car build at 15, I wasn't aloud to use filler so dad taught me to lead load. Not used it since but seem to remember wooden paddles, wet rags, scrapers and something called a flipper (looks like a section of leaf spring with a handle).

What’s the project? Modern fillers out perform lead by miles, unless it’s a period resto job, why use lead?
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Post by: Bishops Finger on January 12, 2009, 09:48:55 PM
Hmmm..Suspecting Bubba's bought a classic/vintage car and the Bentley symbol thread was a red herring to disguise the acquistion of a 1100 Allegro.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Bubba on January 12, 2009, 10:06:39 PM
a pox on you vicker
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Post by: Bishops Finger on January 12, 2009, 11:15:20 PM
Quote from: "V8 Bubba"
a pox on you vicker


Just joking.....heard it was a Princess... :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: greggmo on January 12, 2009, 11:30:34 PM
fordson major :lol:
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Post by: Bubba on January 13, 2009, 03:48:06 PM
i did  own a roadles fordson major 4x4
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Post by: Bishops Finger on January 13, 2009, 09:58:42 PM
Yer done for Bubba.....Got pm'd it is a silver Austin Princess... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Tragic on January 13, 2009, 11:17:11 PM
And what's wrong with that? :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: dxmedia on January 13, 2009, 11:40:26 PM
Shit me that't look good with a 12 inch lift  8-)
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 03:38:25 PM
i only asked as lead loading must be a more permanent repair than bondo
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Post by: Nosebolt on January 14, 2009, 04:28:09 PM
Quote from: "V8 Bubba"
i only asked as lead loading must be a more permanent repair than bondo


50 yrs ago yes, but modern fillers used properly will beat lead hands down.
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 05:33:19 PM
they still take on water dont they :?:
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Post by: Nosebolt on January 14, 2009, 07:14:35 PM
A closed polymer epoxy based filler will have such a low hydroscopic value as to be negligible.

Or

No
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 07:17:34 PM
ok then a good poxy filler is best then
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Post by: Nosebolt on January 14, 2009, 07:44:51 PM
Generally yes,

but as with anything its down to the application, the resin (epoxy) is waterproof, the thixostropic element is the variable, for example the ‘talc’ used in a lightweight filler will retain water like no ones business, at the other extreme suspended aluminium dust as a filler is as waterproof as a solid block of aluminium.
It used to be that you sacrificed porosity for flexibility, but with modern plastisers that’s no longer the case, a short strand carbon filler is light, strong, and 99.9999% waterproof.
   
PS I did work for BAe weapons division for 12 years, developing prototype composite and ceramic weapons, so that’s why I probably sound like a smartarse. :lol:
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 07:50:53 PM
not a smartass at all mate i am always keen to fins out a bout stuff i have limited or no knowledge of but i did work at a clasic car restorers a long time ago and came across a lot of lead on them
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Post by: Nosebolt on January 14, 2009, 07:57:53 PM
That goes back to the old restorers argument, do you restore to how it WAS made, or do make it as good as you can with what is available. For me it’s the latter but have known many that won’t even use stainless bolts if it didn’t originally come with them. :-?
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 08:00:09 PM
strange folks about
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 08:20:04 PM
this the the fordson
(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/5_fordson_major_4wd_1.jpg)