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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: MOCAJ on January 14, 2009, 07:16:52 PM

Title: Shock mount on TJ axle
Post by: MOCAJ on January 14, 2009, 07:16:52 PM
Minor problem today, noticed the rear shock was not attached to the axle  :wink:

The shock mount to the axle is sheared off, not at the weld but approx half way up the bracket.

Where can i get a new mount to weld on to the axle ???

Its a 97 TJ

Will see if i can load a piccie
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 07:18:50 PM
pics please
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Post by: MOCAJ on January 14, 2009, 07:19:49 PM
working on it  :lol:
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Post by: MOCAJ on January 14, 2009, 07:23:10 PM
(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/220_DSC00088_25_1.jpg)

Not brilliant but you can see the idea
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 07:23:35 PM
i would think it could be welded but a pic would help for sure
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 07:24:26 PM
thats the shlepmobile
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Post by: MOCAJ on January 14, 2009, 07:24:36 PM
the bracket has gone at the mid point, could be plated i spose to give it strength
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Post by: MOCAJ on January 14, 2009, 07:25:19 PM
nah its the gailmobil  :lol:
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 07:26:27 PM
ahh looks more gay than normal :lol:
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Post by: gazjeep on January 14, 2009, 07:29:46 PM
Is it just made out of sheet / plate steel ?

If so & you can get it off (both bits) for a pattern, so long as the bends are straight without any fancy joggles I might be able to get a replacement made up.

Oh & how thick is the material its made from ?

Let me know  :wink:
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Post by: isle of man on January 14, 2009, 07:31:47 PM
RE does a kit - so does Clayton but his bracket relocates the mount....Have seen this before the mount hangs down like a whores draws begs to be knocked off!!!!
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Post by: MOCAJ on January 14, 2009, 08:32:58 PM
found the RE kit, looks the job  8-)
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Post by: dxmedia on January 14, 2009, 08:45:32 PM
Been thinking today about relocating the shock mounts to the top of the axle tubes.

Only thing which concerned me was the heat build up welding. Pulling the halfshafts and draining all the oil is the solution I suppose?
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Post by: isle of man on January 14, 2009, 08:49:08 PM
Oil does not go to the top of the tube.....
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Post by: dxmedia on January 14, 2009, 08:53:14 PM
But the oil does go down the tube. Welding with enough heat to be good penetration will be hot enough for it to catch i'd have thought?
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Post by: isle of man on January 14, 2009, 08:56:07 PM
One has much to learn young JEDI.
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 08:56:45 PM
he he
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Post by: dxmedia on January 14, 2009, 08:59:50 PM
:roll:
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Post by: isle of man on January 14, 2009, 09:04:22 PM
Let me help you - locate a jack and lift the side you intend to weld.

Luke the above advice is free of charge......
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Post by: dxmedia on January 14, 2009, 09:05:26 PM
You've never seen a truck go up in flames from welding have you?
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Post by: Nosebolt on January 14, 2009, 09:07:27 PM
Quote from: "isle of man"
Let me help you - locate a jack and lift the opposing side you intend to weld.

Luke the above advice is free of charge......


just a guess, are you saying tube fills with oil=no oxygen=no fire and oil keeps heat away from seals?
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Post by: Bubba on January 14, 2009, 09:07:35 PM
yup i have
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Post by: isle of man on January 14, 2009, 09:08:12 PM
True....Had a TATima go bang does that count?
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Post by: dxmedia on January 14, 2009, 09:09:57 PM
wow, unbelivable advice  :lol:  :lol:


I'll stick to draining oil from things which I'm welding personally  :wink:
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Post by: greggmo on January 14, 2009, 09:37:53 PM
the oil wont light it has no air in there. there is no problem welding to the tubes as long as there is not to much penetration and in any case there is plenty of room between the shaft and the tube wall. as for your bracket Steve we can weld it easy enough and strengthen it if ya like. 8-)
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Post by: PtP on January 14, 2009, 11:27:05 PM
Quote from: "greggmo"
...........as for your bracket Steve we can weld it easy enough and strengthen it if ya like. :wink:
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Post by: Bishops Finger on January 14, 2009, 11:33:07 PM
8-)

Hell yes...
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Post by: MOCAJ on January 25, 2009, 04:18:21 PM
all fixed, bracket welded back and looking good

thanks to kev and gregg for your time and help

another couple of jobs done too  8-)
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Post by: gazjeep on January 25, 2009, 10:16:02 PM
Result, Dead handy them pair aint they  :lol:
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Post by: MOCAJ on January 25, 2009, 10:32:27 PM
its always a grand day out over at the ranch with the deadly duo  8-)
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Post by: wazza on January 26, 2009, 10:48:08 AM
how much heat/weld do you really think you'd be putting into the axles to light the oil???

seriously your more likely to bend the axle the amout your talking.

ive welded alot of brackets to axles using low hidrogen rods (lots of penetration and heat) an never had a problem, or even considered dropping the oil.

i presume you'd be using a mig, so at most you'll only be warming the inside of the tubes, you'd never get anywhere near the flash point of the oil or melt the seals which will be atleast 6 inches away.

by the way the axle tubes are about half inch think.
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Post by: wazza on January 26, 2009, 10:50:25 AM
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You've never seen a truck go up in flames from welding have you?
 
 


plenty of times, im getting quite a nack to it :lol: