Post by: scrw on January 28, 2009, 01:33:11 PM
It is currently in my XJ (was when bought, & have a bill for £90 odd for it being put in!) but I think I am going to swap it out. You are meant to swap the filter out every 4-6k miles and just top up the oil to the correct level rather than swap it out every 7.5k. All other jeeps I have run have had morris semi-synth and had no issues with low pressure on idle when hot, but its 2k miles since the filter change and top up with amerilube and after a 2 hour motorway run the oil pressure is bouncing at about 10 oclock on the gauge (mk2 XJ oil gauge isnt linear). The engine has only got 80k on it and is in good order, doubt very much the pump is an issue. Going to drain and stick in some morris 10-40 semi and a new filter and see what the score is.
Personally I have always been sceptical of its claims, always been a believer in good quality oil changed often, will see what the pressure gets up to with fresh oil in.
Post by: dxmedia on January 28, 2009, 01:51:07 PM
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You are meant to swap the filter out every 4-6k miles and just top up the oil to the correct level rather than swap it out every 7.5k
They claim you don't need to change your oil :shock:
OMFG, get that stuff out of there pronto and give it a full oil change with cheap shit oil, flush it, then oil change again with decent spec oil.
Post by: scrw on January 28, 2009, 02:03:53 PM
There is a big thread on j33p about it but its a bit bias
Post by: dxmedia on January 28, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Post by: isle of man on January 28, 2009, 04:13:32 PM
Why are you so against it - do you have some real experience with it?
Post by: The Midnight Ploughboy on January 28, 2009, 04:35:57 PM
I know nothing about Amerilube so won't comment.
However, my old man was an aviation engineer working for Shell before he retired. He thought that modern motor oils were now so good that you didn't need to spend loads of money on fancy products. He'd happily buy Halfrauds, Tesco, whatever was on offer. BUT he got hold of the best filters he could find and changed that oil every 6K.
His Volvo 240 had over 600K miles on it when the body fell to bits but the engine was still sweet as a nut and never had a major rebuild.
I still follow his advice.
TMP
Post by: UKJeeper on January 28, 2009, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: "scrw"
There is a big thread on j33p about it but its a bit bias
Could it be because the Amerilube seller and the site sponsor are one and the same?
Nah................
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 28, 2009, 05:10:57 PM
Post by: Dave69 on January 28, 2009, 05:17:25 PM
Post by: isle of man on January 28, 2009, 05:36:33 PM
Amerilube is not mineral based and as such does not degrade - this is the science behind it.
Post by: Carlos Fandango on January 28, 2009, 05:42:03 PM
is this some sort of engine "rejuvenator" or "protector"???
Post by: tim_aka_tim on January 28, 2009, 05:45:39 PM
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 28, 2009, 06:04:50 PM
Quote from: "Carlos Fandango"
ignorant question here,
is this some sort of engine "rejuvenator" or "protector"???
No. It's a high tech engine oil. It does not make any magical claims as such, but is said to have superior sealing qualities which reduce the passage of combustion gases past the piston rings reducing oil degredation due to contamination by unburnt fuel and combustion products.
Post by: scrw on January 28, 2009, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: "isle of man"
It's in my Wrangler - yes you only need to change the filter and to be honest found it to improve things for me.
Why are you so against it - do you have some real experience with it?
What did it improve?
It is a proper fully syntetic oil, personally it doesn't like the trips I am doing (3 hours at no more than 75 on a motorway ain't tough tho), now I am going to swap out for a new filter and my usual semi synth I use and see if the symptoms persist.
Post by: Roland on January 28, 2009, 07:47:08 PM
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 28, 2009, 08:34:57 PM
Post by: scrw on January 28, 2009, 08:36:58 PM
its rock steady when cold, a touch over 3 bar, even when over 1500rpm I see 3 bar, when warm it drops, says to me oil not sender
Post by: gazjeep on January 28, 2009, 08:51:53 PM
Might be worth changing that first, easy for a man of your means
Post by: wazza on January 28, 2009, 09:23:52 PM
my cherokee runs 2.5 ideling, 3 to 4.5 general running/booting it an starting cold its close to 5
the tj engine i rebuilt last yr is the pretty much the same(slightly higher pressure), an thats eaten two engines from the dealer saying everything is ok if the guage drops to zero an the bells start ringing.
never trust the peices of electrical crap they fit in the dash!!!!
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 28, 2009, 10:50:05 PM
Used to change oil in XR Sierras at 1/2 Fords intervals
That would be £30/40 every 6k IIRC
Obviously frequent oil changes improve engine life but spent a while reading the stuff Mark and Lee put together and it seemed kosher...
Post by: dxmedia on January 28, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: "isle of man"
It's in my Wrangler - yes you only need to change the filter and to be honest found it to improve things for me.
Why are you so against it - do you have some real experience with it?
Nope, but I bet is works as well as pouring sand through your inlet manifold to do port grinding. I'm not trying that either.
Please explain what happens to all of the metal filings in the oil which the filter doesn't take out - the ones which make oil glimmer slighly when your doing an oil change.
Post by: birty on January 29, 2009, 12:34:11 AM
Please don't let this thead degenerate into an argument, as threads of this nature always do..
Post by: tartanzj on January 29, 2009, 02:06:25 PM
Quote from: "dxmedia"
Please explain what happens to all of the metal filings in the oil which the filter doesn't take out - the ones which make oil glimmer slighly when your doing an oil change.
Sorry for the slight change of thread direction but have any of you used this or heard any first hand experience of it in use.
http://www.firstfour.co.uk/p0/filtermag/226996.htm (http://www.firstfour.co.uk/p0/filtermag/226996.htm)
The principle makes sense.
Post by: Carlos Fandango on January 29, 2009, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: "birty"
Please don't let this thead degenerate into an argument, as threads of this nature always do..
Oh no they dont
:smt075
Post by: isle of man on January 29, 2009, 03:43:50 PM
The longer you have it in the engine the cleaner your engine internals become.
What I have noticed is from cold it did rattle a little more - this I put right with a heat exchanger on the oil filter housing.......Now it cools at one end of the spectrum and heats the other.
Invest in the Amerilube and behold the future.
You could of course continue using mineral based oils and leaf springs - solid tyres - no seat belts etc etc etc
Post by: greggmo on January 29, 2009, 05:50:37 PM
Post by: Bubba on January 29, 2009, 08:25:27 PM
backforwards
60 years and bought a willys
and they are all saying how fookin cool is the and shocked how good it is offroad and having a load of fun too welldone boys good on ya some old ideas are the best after all
Post by: isle of man on January 29, 2009, 08:40:46 PM
Post by: Bubba on January 29, 2009, 08:43:36 PM
Post by: isle of man on January 29, 2009, 08:50:49 PM
Post by: Bubba on January 29, 2009, 09:12:18 PM
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 29, 2009, 10:21:59 PM
Post by: scrw on January 30, 2009, 09:11:10 AM
anyone noticed oil ain't advetised on the tv any more
Post by: captain cavalier on January 30, 2009, 09:15:35 AM
go on then why not
Post by: scrw on January 30, 2009, 09:17:56 AM
Post by: scrw on March 25, 2009, 10:46:30 PM
)Now running an oversize fram oil filter & Morris 10-40 semi synth which I have used in all my other jeeps, oil pressure back upto the 3 mark when hot or cold, so either the oil was shot or the filter clogged after 4k miles of use. Oh and done 500 miles since the change and the MPG ain't changed either which was one claim of amerilube.
All in all I don't think it is worth the expense, I am sticking to a full oil & filter change every 6k miles, my last XJ was on 160k miles when I sold it and had good oil pressure & the wifes WG is on 148k miles on morris 10-40 and doing fine.
Post by: Bishops Finger on March 25, 2009, 11:04:57 PM
Post by: scrw on March 25, 2009, 11:19:47 PM
Post by: Bishops Finger on March 25, 2009, 11:28:03 PM
Post by: scrw on March 25, 2009, 11:54:34 PM
err, being tactful here, but some claims about this stuff are dubious. I gave it a go, found it to be no better than so called lesser oils, & certainly it doesn't give better MPG that is claimed by the supplier plus I was suffering from lower oil pressure when I wouldn't have expected it (may have been the filter, maybe the oil). I leave it at that.
Post by: Dave69 on March 26, 2009, 05:48:41 PM
Never one for leaving oil in an engine and just topping it up,
Post by: captain cavalier on March 26, 2009, 06:14:00 PM
The oil should be in better condition in a gas vehicle (gas is carbon hungry and cleans up deposits)
Post by: scrw on March 26, 2009, 07:00:29 PM
Post by: rob.79 on March 27, 2009, 01:42:19 PM
Post by: Dave69 on March 27, 2009, 03:19:12 PM
I'd change the oil regularly and on the highes would be 6k. for the sake of £30 for a decent oiol change it's quite cheap compared to repairing engine wear from worn out oil
Post by: Bubba on March 27, 2009, 04:20:32 PM
like cults ya know give them all ya cash then sit round in a circle and take poison or such seen it a few times
Post by: greggmo on March 27, 2009, 10:16:14 PM
Post by: scrw on April 07, 2009, 05:35:43 PM
Personally think this stuff isnt worth it.