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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: td marmo on January 31, 2009, 11:29:52 AM

Title: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: td marmo on January 31, 2009, 11:29:52 AM
Does anyone know or have seen  of a diesel engine transplant that could replace the VM engine
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Post by: dxmedia on January 31, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
Anything pretty much could be made to fit. My preference would be the frontera 2.8 (not the trooper one ;) )
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Post by: td marmo on January 31, 2009, 05:02:16 PM
but Is that not aVM engine also?
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Post by: Panic mechanic! on January 31, 2009, 05:05:37 PM
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VAUXHALL has dropped the Isuzu 2.8 litre direct injection from its Frontera engine range and switched to an all new Italian-built 2.5 litre turbo diesel from VM Motori.


depends on the cc's I guess
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Post by: Dave69 on January 31, 2009, 05:19:25 PM
the was a guy doing a vw T4 diesel swap in London but i dont have the details. was looking around when i had a diesel but then bought a petrol for less hassle
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Post by: dxmedia on January 31, 2009, 05:56:51 PM
Quote from: "td marmo"
but Is that not aVM engine also?


Nope, the 2.5 is the VM - not a bad engine if they work :S

The 2.8 is an isuzu lump, but the trooper one has 90bhp, the frontera has a front mounted intercooler, tweeked fuel pump and puts out 115bhp with about 250 ft lb of torque, and they are 10 a penny due to them being in frontera's ;)
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Post by: scrw on January 31, 2009, 06:21:09 PM
stick in a lardy 200 TDI  :lol:

Otherwise what peugeot TDs mate to the gearbox ?
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: bluesleeper on March 01, 2009, 10:26:58 AM
I take it the td engine is untunable cos mine is slow as!! its fly by wire too so that helps.......NOT!
Is there anything that can be done to make it quicker?
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: The Smiths on March 01, 2009, 10:36:35 AM
It isn't that slow :wink:  :lol:
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: Dave69 on March 01, 2009, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: "bluesleeper"
I take it the td engine is untunable cos mine is slow as!! its fly by wire too so that helps.......NOT!
Is there anything that can be done to make it quicker?


they weren't built to be quick and there is not alot you can do to make it faster.

there is not direct diesel engine swap. any diesel engine you want to swap will involve some hassle and problems connecting the electrics.

speed = 4ltr petrol
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: Bubba on March 01, 2009, 07:53:17 PM
i saw a left hooker two door that had a renult or puegeote engins  owner rekoned it was standard offering in frog land reno had shares in jeep at the time the xj was gettin developed
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: Mike Pavelin on March 01, 2009, 08:44:36 PM
Early ones had a 2.1 diesel from a Renault Master van.
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: Bishops Finger on March 02, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
Feck the diesesel off at the pass and buy a 4l
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: td marmo on March 03, 2009, 08:59:49 AM
that's the point got a dead diesel thought about putting a different engine in it I have two 4ltrs that I drive
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: JamesH on March 10, 2009, 04:01:50 PM
Cummins 5.9  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: bluesleeper on April 09, 2009, 10:50:58 AM
what would the cummins be out of?
I like the sound of that...

Or i might swap for a grand with the v8 didn't they do a 4.7 and 5.7?
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: Tank on April 09, 2009, 10:54:01 AM
think it is a 4.7 and the 5.9 in the Grand
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: Bishops Finger on April 09, 2009, 12:41:39 PM
You think right Tank :wink:
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: JamesH on April 09, 2009, 01:36:20 PM
What about a 4.2 turbo diesel unit from a Toyota Landcruiser??

I'm not sure which vehicles have the 5.9 Cummins over here - they're fitted to the larger dodge pickups in the US. My sister's horse lorry has one and it's a massive , heavy f#cker - I don't think you'd ever get it into the engine bay of a Cherokee.
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: tim_aka_tim on April 09, 2009, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: "bluesleeper"
what would the cummins be out of?
I like the sound of that...

Or i might swap for a grand with the v8 didn't they do a 4.7 and 5.7?

Leyland Roadrunner, Leyland Swift midi bus/chassis. But just cus it says Cummins 5.9
on it doesn't mean it's the same as the 5.9 in a RAM 3500. The 5.9 is very tall and
a straight six, so it's probably too long.
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: isle of man on April 09, 2009, 06:28:07 PM
4BT or 6BT??
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: tim_aka_tim on April 09, 2009, 06:43:38 PM
6BT
Title: Re: XJ 2.5 diesel
Post by: wildwood on April 11, 2009, 03:10:54 PM
Bugger weighs in at 700 odd pounds..... 6BT

and the 4 BT that some US guys have used has VERY narrow power band.

Last half million miles tho..... run off chip fat or whatever.... still be running after the big mushroom cloud......