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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: bigsk on February 09, 2009, 03:40:27 PM

Title: Help with Headlight unit Genuine part is upside down
Post by: bigsk on February 09, 2009, 03:40:27 PM
Need Help
Got a old style 2001 TD 2.5 60th anniversary , the passenger side headlight is corroded ,
The spare part the main dealer has suplied has the locating lugs in wrong place ( if anyone understands).
I need them about 3/4 way up on radiator side and on middle of road side
 but genuine Valeo from dealers has them opposite way round , eg 3/4 way up on roadside :-(
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on February 09, 2009, 03:48:49 PM
Er, take it back they supplied the wrong part.
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Post by: JamesH on February 09, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
They can be bought cheaply from Mansfield 4x4 and they are the same Valeo items (except they fit!)
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Post by: bigsk on February 09, 2009, 03:53:24 PM
The main dealer up here in inverness insisits its right part even taken mine out to show them , they just shrug and insist mines wrong !!
 Got mot coming up soon
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Post by: Panic mechanic! on February 09, 2009, 03:56:32 PM
take it back to them under the sales of goods act. It doesn't fit the vehicle and hence under your rights, you have the right to your mney back or a replacement.Mention Trading standards and possible complaint to them. see where it goes from there
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on February 09, 2009, 04:01:21 PM
Reading it again, it seems that if the headlight is a mirror image of what you need, they supplied the wrong side!
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on February 09, 2009, 04:06:59 PM
What is the part number they supplied? It will be on the reciept - an eight digit number starting with 55 and ending AE, eg 55xxxxxxAE
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Post by: bigsk on February 09, 2009, 04:07:13 PM
Got a refund no problem , but they insist that unit is not handed , and mine is.
 Stuck and need one for mot
 Been to local breakers and hes no jeeps in
 Has anyone else ever heard of this
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on February 09, 2009, 04:10:41 PM
Your local dealer is a retard. How they hell can they be the same, the beams have to point in different directions.

Oh, welcome to the club  :lol:

Try ebay. Search for "cherokee breaking", then email the vendors to see if they got one, or "cherokee headlamp". You'll get lots of Grand Cherokee lamps though too.
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Post by: tedthefed on February 09, 2009, 04:25:58 PM
Contact Lighthouse got 2 replacements for the sliver XJ last year 01953681237. Next day delivery.Or try Mansfield 4x4
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Post by: JamesH on February 09, 2009, 05:02:40 PM
I think they are actually the same both sides, at least on my 98 XJ they are.

Still sound retarded though.
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Post by: Lornaben on February 09, 2009, 05:30:27 PM
Have they supplied a left hand drive part ?
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Post by: Panic mechanic! on February 09, 2009, 05:42:38 PM
UK headlamps are not handed they have the same pattern on both lens, if you got 2 different lens then someones fitted a wrong lamp previously.

if you look at the lamp from the front of the vehicle it should have a small arrow on it and an 'e' mark, the arrow should point to the kerb for it to be uk spec
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Post by: tim_aka_tim on February 09, 2009, 05:44:30 PM
Well, I stand corrected, but the 2001 parts catalogue lists different numbers for each side.
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Post by: Panic mechanic! on February 09, 2009, 05:46:16 PM
thats probably cos when you buy a lamp from a dealer some of them come with the mounting frame, which is handed
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Post by: bigsk on February 09, 2009, 05:59:19 PM
Hope this photo works showing lugs, all that jeep invoice has is
JK01030272      010306 96/01 HLAMP W/LE
 anybody know if it ok to cut lugs  off as its held in by chrome trim ?
 and cheers for all the help(http://http://birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/userpix/1699_P300109_161801_3.jpg)
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Post by: Panic mechanic! on February 09, 2009, 08:06:03 PM
those are locating lugs for making sure that the hedlamp sits horizontal in the frame, I know this may sound a bit silly but has someone accidentally fitted the frame on that inside the car upside down? as they do then to have symetrical buckets behind the lamp.
You can remove them as long as the headlamp sits safe and secure in the frame, the chrome surround will hold it safe enough.
 off course the other  thing is I wonder if the dealer has sourced the headlamps from  another source and they are not genuine parts.
( the same lamps are fitted to  suzuki/bedford rascals, daihatsu's and various other car brands)
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Post by: mack on February 10, 2009, 11:01:44 AM
The part number on the light is 67806092.

I have 2 here, one dated '97 the other '98 and the same light will fit either side, the lugs are in the same place on each light.

If you need one I can send you one. There is some corrosion though, round the side-light bulb.