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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Manda on August 15, 2005, 09:09:00 PM

Title: Another tyre question
Post by: Manda on August 15, 2005, 09:09:00 PM
I am sick of not being able to get out of muddy places and having people say "you'd have done it with muds on" so, I want some muds.

The question is which ones to buy.

I know I want 31x10.5R15s, road noise is not a factor cause I shall put my AT2s back on for majority of the time. I don't really want remoulds.

I have pondered Simex MTs, Silverstone MT's and Cooper Discoverer STT's.

I am driving Greggmo crazy, so can I have some other's opinions please
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Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2005, 09:11:18 PM
How much do ya wanna spend????? :shock:

I lurrrrvvvv my BFG muds but they are expensive!!!

Little bruv just got a set of Kumho's.......
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on August 15, 2005, 09:18:01 PM
I'm runnin' Colways, 40 quid each and do just fine.
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Post by: Manda on August 15, 2005, 09:18:59 PM
I can get the Simex for £69 + VAT that is about my limit.

Kumho's Road venture MT look ok.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2005, 09:25:35 PM
Colways are top, plus you can tell the tree huggers you run on recycled tyres.
I only run on colways/westlakes now, was a BFG man before but there is no difference except the price, some info on them in the reviews bit on my site
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Post by: chrisjones on August 15, 2005, 09:27:45 PM
Mytyres are doin' BFG muds in 31.10.50.15 for about £94 inc. VAT and delivery.

Why no remoulds??  Bronco do some really aggressive ones for that kind of money. Baja Claw for one.

Silversone extremes look good too.  They're both Simex Jungle trecker copies.

Ummm!  Nice!! 8)
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Post by: RichT on August 15, 2005, 09:29:56 PM
Goodyear MTR - really good on and off road
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Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2005, 09:31:25 PM
I think this is always going to be a very personal subject.......everyone has their own favorite..........

I would have a look at what everyone is running at the weekend.....if ya can wait that long!!! :twisted:
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Post by: Bubba on August 15, 2005, 10:26:52 PM
for once kd has made a very good point :smt017  :smt023
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Post by: Bubba on August 15, 2005, 10:28:20 PM
but i wouldnt look at less than 32s you are kitted for more than 31s
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Post by: MK1 on August 15, 2005, 10:32:02 PM
For Colway or Greenway retreads Sowden seem to be the cheapest. Also, they are not VAT registered, so no VAT to pay.  :lol:  :lol:

http://sowdentyres.co.uk/index.html (http://sowdentyres.co.uk/index.html)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2005, 11:05:07 PM
KD made a very good point for once :shock:

As you're not using them 100% day to day Manda maybe Grizzly Claws?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2005, 11:23:38 PM
Simexs are superb in the mud....horrible on road, wouldn't recommend them for a daily driver
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Post by: Anonymous on August 15, 2005, 11:36:02 PM
Quote from: "V8 Bubba"
for once kd has made a very good point :smt023
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Post by: Woody on August 16, 2005, 10:07:37 AM
IMHO stay clear of the Goodyear MTRs. At Prew's this summer was following a heavily mod'd TJ on them (Long Arm, ARBs, all the toys) and he had to winch himself up climbs I made in the TJ (on BFG MTs) and an XJ cleared no probs.  He's now changing to Pro-Comps.

Woody
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Post by: Tank on August 16, 2005, 10:21:38 AM
I ran MTR`s on my XJ and i find they can tend to slide around very easily on slight mud and grass although they were pretty good on deep stuff and anything hard and rocky,but i think a lot of it comes down to personal preference and also the size of your wad.There are now plenty of remoulds and cheap tyres that are very similar to the likes of the BFG and even if not quite as hard-wearing they work out just as good a value for money because they tend to be around half the cost.Kumho,grizzlies etc all seem to use a similar pattern to more well known makes so must in theory perform similarly well offroad,but they probably wear down quicker :roll:  :roll:
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Post by: Mick O on August 16, 2005, 10:43:25 AM
I wouldn't ignore Colways.

The tread pattern is based on the BFG MT, but are half the cost.

I've not heard anything bad about them, they are good on road and very good off.

Plus they are guaranteed against manufacturing defects, cant be bad.

Take a look

http://http://www.colwaytyres.co.uk/


 8)  :smt025
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Post by: horobi on August 16, 2005, 11:06:49 AM
A friend of mine put Colway MT's on his *cough* Jimny and they were pretty impressive.... we threw a lot at them doing a particular job at the time that involved a lot of muddy river banks and beds and it did very well and did the 160 mile round trip from the office everyday on the motorway.....fecking noisy though!!
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Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2005, 11:12:14 AM
I was going to add that Horobi, Colways are noisy. I still think, cost aside, that you can't beat BFG Muds, quiet, well mannered on the road, not as good in the mud as Simex (but then what is?) but none the less very effective - I've just put a set of 35 x 10.5 x 15 Simexs on the TJ and in all honesty I think I'll end up swapping them out for BFG MT's - Unless of course you're the buyer of my Simexs in which case best tyre ever made and not that noisy at all ...honest guv  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2005, 11:44:57 AM
Dunno if they will be any good to ya but I have a set of Cooper MT's with 2 months wear on them that I had on the ZJ when you seen it last.
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Post by: RichT on August 16, 2005, 05:00:37 PM
Nowt wrong with Goodyear MTRs, just get the pressures right and crack on. They're on a par with BFG M/T off road, quieter on the road, can't comment about longevity yet. I've run MTR, BFG M/T and Cooper SST in the past, they're all good. The Grizzly is great as long as the tread stays good (wear out quicker than the new tyres).
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Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2005, 05:42:40 PM
BFG Muds get my vote.........if I can do 80 in the wet on em then they must be good!! :twisted:
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Post by: JamesH on August 16, 2005, 05:46:00 PM
I've just debated this with myself and ended up going for the BFG MTs. I got them from www.mytyres.co.uk (http://www.mytyres.co.uk) for about £93 each.

I also looked at Simex MT and Cooper STT. The Simex tread felt very soft and the Cooper new pattern looked really good but cost more than the BFG from above.

It's a personal thing and moving from some well used and worn ATs I'm expecting to notice a difference regardless of brand.
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Post by: Psychoman on August 16, 2005, 09:05:18 PM
Done a 2000 mile round trip on Colway MT 31/10.5/15s on the Cherry - cruisin' at up to 80/85 mph in Europe - no worries. Good cheap tyre and not too bad as a daily driver - they cut up in the rough stuff a bit (relatively soft compound) but at the price I don't worry.

Recent convert to Grizzly Claws though, too - horrible on the road, but brilliant in mud and rocks! Look the biz, too - very nasty. :twisted:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2005, 09:43:30 PM
Did you have a vehicle with the Colways or was it a juggling type act :D
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Post by: Manda on August 17, 2005, 03:36:52 PM
Thanks for your responses guys. I think I have made my mind up now.
*grins excitedly*
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Post by: Bubba on August 17, 2005, 09:43:42 PM
boggers
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Post by: Dingo on August 17, 2005, 11:47:42 PM
No need to be rude :applaudit:
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Post by: Manda on August 24, 2005, 10:47:06 PM
Just to finish this thread, I went for the new Cooper Discoverer STT. I am well impressed. They were awesome at Ribbo at the weekend, cleared really well and seemed to give great traction. on road they don't seem much noisier than my General Grabber AT2s and they don't seem too bad in the wet although I have noticed a difference in braking differences.

They were £85 each all in from Nene Valley 4x4.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2005, 11:07:11 PM
should have gone for some slightly taller ones tho  :lol:

(http://http://www.offroading.net/forum/upload/dscf0311.jpg)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 09:30:00 AM
Just an aside comment.... Watch the speed rating on remoulds... you can end up without insurance if you are not careful as you will have incorrect rated tyres for your beast.... If you do fit different speed rated tyres, I would suggest telling your insurance... they probably won't realise, but at least they won't be able to refuse to pay out :D
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 09:51:51 AM
watch the speed rating on MTR's they are below the top speed of an XJ, same rating as the colways