Post by: Lornaben on April 20, 2009, 11:27:58 PM
It is quite possibly the single most dramatic modification I have ever made.
Before - 25-30 mph wobble wobble shake shake. It was so violent the front wheels would leave the ground :twisted: (never been over 60 before, It was too scary), no wobbles. It even goes in a straight line by itself just like a 'normal' car, even with one hand on the steering wheel and that's something I haven't dared do for 8 years
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Post by: greggmo on April 20, 2009, 11:32:33 PM
Post by: Lornaben on April 20, 2009, 11:34:43 PM
Post by: Lornaben on April 20, 2009, 11:38:58 PM
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Post by: greggmo on April 20, 2009, 11:41:12 PM
Post by: Lornaben on April 20, 2009, 11:41:57 PM
Post by: greggmo on April 20, 2009, 11:43:07 PM
Post by: Lornaben on April 20, 2009, 11:48:15 PM
Post by: Bishops Finger on April 20, 2009, 11:55:49 PM
Post by: Lornaben on April 20, 2009, 11:57:16 PM
Post by: Nosebolt on April 21, 2009, 12:14:14 AM
I took mine off till I found the real reason for the death wobble, which was incorrect caster angle, and then re-fitted the damper. true you can hide a lot with the damper but better to fix problem not just hide it.
i'll get off my high horse now
Post by: Tragic on April 21, 2009, 07:24:03 PM
Post by: Lornaben on April 21, 2009, 08:09:52 PM
What I haven't told ya is that I have also replaced 2 tie rod ends and a steering bell crank. I've also had my wheels re-balanced cos one had chucked a weight somewhere 'froadin.
The wobble is now just a gentle 'shimmy' at 25 - 30 mph. This is caused by the flex in the steering drag link because it has spring loading built in to each end. The springs could be upgraded to stronger versions and that would probably rule out the wobble altogether. Only problem there would be the premature wear on the ball joints the springs hold on to. A power steering conversion would also stop it cos that would eliminate the 2 spring loaded joints and the worm and roller steering box.
My enthusiasm is born from the fact there is suddenly no bump steer or sudden wanderings caused by uneven road surfaces, the steering damper just calmed it completely, making it a joy to drive again, and it should also mean the steering wheel won't try to take my thumbs off when out playin in the mud
Post by: ferretjuggler on April 21, 2009, 08:41:10 PM
Well done finding the real cause of the wobble instead of just trying to cover it up.
I must say both my low milage Brave and the "spares" rust bucket (with cracked old tyres) both steer lighter and better than any series Land Rover I've ever owned, recirculating balls 'n' all, and thats including the one I spent ££££ on recon steering box, new relay, swivels, ball joints, and radial tyres.
Post by: isle of man on April 21, 2009, 08:48:05 PM
Post by: Bishops Finger on April 21, 2009, 09:06:51 PM
Lornaben and wheat beer are to blame...
Post by: Lornaben on April 21, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
Post by: dxmedia on April 22, 2009, 01:05:40 PM
Quote from: "Lornaben"
Your right chaps.
What I haven't told ya is that I have also replaced 2 tie rod ends and a steering bell crank. I've also had my wheels re-balanced cos one had chucked a weight somewhere 'froadin.
The wobble is now just a gentle 'shimmy' at 25 - 30 mph. This is caused by the flex in the steering drag link because it has spring loading built in to each end. The springs could be upgraded to stronger versions and that would probably rule out the wobble altogether. Only problem there would be the premature wear on the ball joints the springs hold on to. A power steering conversion would also stop it cos that would eliminate the 2 spring loaded joints and the worm and roller steering box.
My enthusiasm is born from the fact there is suddenly no bump steer or sudden wanderings caused by uneven road surfaces, the steering damper just calmed it completely, making it a joy to drive again, and it should also mean the steering wheel won't try to take my thumbs off when out playin in the mud :?:
Post by: Lornaben on April 22, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Post by: Nosebolt on April 22, 2009, 06:01:49 PM
with mine i had to add 6* shims (8* would still be better) and i set the toe in to 2* (book is 1*) gives a little tyre wear but better ride so worth it
Post by: Bishops Finger on April 24, 2009, 01:31:53 AM
SKyjacker $43..from Quadratec
Freight $63+...Agreed to it....what a dick...hope happy shopper fitting mayo isn't too much... :shock:
Post by: isle of man on April 24, 2009, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: "Bishops Finger"
SKyjacker $43..from Quadratec
Freight $63+...Agreed to it....what a dick..... :shock:
Good God man!!!!!!
Post by: Lornaben on April 24, 2009, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: "Bishops Finger"
Well
SKyjacker $43..from Quadratec
Freight $63+...Agreed to it....what a dick...hope happy shopper fitting mayo isn't too much... :shock:
:shock:
Post by: Bubba on April 24, 2009, 09:35:52 PM
Post by: Lornaben on April 10, 2011, 05:05:50 PM
Just thought I'd show the kingpin bearings I replaced yesterday. This would account for the last bit of wobble I hope :icon_eek:
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Post by: isle of man on April 10, 2011, 05:37:56 PM
Post by: wildwood on April 10, 2011, 07:46:59 PM
And next month my bits will arrive so I may just find out :icon_biggrin: :icon_twisted: :icon_super:
Post by: isle of man on April 10, 2011, 08:02:50 PM
Post by: wildwood on April 10, 2011, 08:06:38 PM
Looking forward to it.................... :icon_twisted: :icon_super: