Post by: Bulldog67 on April 23, 2009, 07:58:58 PM
Here are the two im considering:
http://tarantula4x4.co.uk/index.php?mai ... ucts_id=17 (http://tarantula4x4.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=17" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
or
http://www.famousfour.co.uk/foursport/shackle.php (http://www.famousfour.co.uk/foursport/shackle.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Cheers gents (or gentessess)
Post by: Roland on April 23, 2009, 08:08:12 PM
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 23, 2009, 08:39:32 PM
had a feelin that would be the answer, more £'s then!How many, just one on the front centre, or one each corner? And the rear (cant go centre coz of tow bar, which i need)?
and, if i really cant go the tarantula 4x4 route, is this one better, worse or same than famousfour:
http://www.forgetec4x4.co.uk/ (http://www.forgetec4x4.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Post by: Panic mechanic! on April 23, 2009, 08:47:27 PM
:-D
Post by: PtP on April 23, 2009, 08:48:44 PM
(http://http://i5.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/32/46/b4ef_1.JPG)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Recovery-swivel-e ... 240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Recovery-swivel-eyes-winch-bumper-4x4_W0QQitemZ200332478562QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Trailers_Transporters_Parts?hash=item200332478562&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Post by: PtP on April 23, 2009, 09:05:10 PM
(http://http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j272/mmore514/DSCN2265.jpg)
Post by: ferretjuggler on April 23, 2009, 09:56:15 PM
Weld on gate hinges from Telford Farm Machinery on the rabbit run?
About £3 each.
My "A" frame hinges on 6 of 'em plus two tractor implement pins.
Never had any issues with the strength of it, even when I had a low speed jacknife
Post by: Nosebolt on April 23, 2009, 11:02:33 PM
no matter how good a recovery point you buy, it's only as strong as what you bolt it to.
Post by: daggie on April 24, 2009, 07:49:57 AM
but, whats wrong with the tow bar as a recovery point?
Post by: Bishops Finger on April 24, 2009, 12:44:07 PM
Post by: dxmedia on April 24, 2009, 01:11:04 PM
Quote from: "daggie"
get a front recovery point, by all means
but, whats wrong with the tow bar as a recovery point?
It's only rated at 3.5 tonne, put a kinetic on that with 10mph pull before the snatch and your in ripping the tow bar off territory.
Dont use a bumper for recovery, weld a plate off the chassis rails, have one at each side and use a bridle.
Rember, once you've killed someone it's really difficult to appologise about the 25kg metal weight flying through the air.
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 24, 2009, 02:25:15 PM
Post by: Nosebolt on April 24, 2009, 04:40:13 PM
Quote from: "Bulldog67"
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that it doesnt matter what job you do on a jeep, it is never, and i really mean never, simple and straight forward!!!!!!!!!!
like most things m8, looks easy when you dont see the prep, but any job stands on its foundations, get the prep right and it will stand the test of time (and use)
Post by: Tragic on April 24, 2009, 06:22:30 PM
Quote from: "dxmedia"
Quote from: "daggie"get a front recovery point, by all means
but, whats wrong with the tow bar as a recovery point?
It's only rated at 3.5 tonne, put a kinetic on that with 10mph pull before the snatch and your in ripping the tow bar off territory.
Dont use a bumper for recovery, weld a plate off the chassis rails, have one at each side and use a bridle.
Rember, once you've killed someone it's really difficult to appologise about the 25kg metal weight flying through the air.
I've seen this happen (not the killing someone, but the torn off bumper flying through the air at head height :mrgreen:
http://www.quadratec.com/products/12007_02.htm (http://www.quadratec.com/products/12007_02.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Post by: daggie on April 24, 2009, 06:55:30 PM
front is a drawtite
rear adjustable
Post by: MOCAJ on April 24, 2009, 07:34:24 PM
Post by: Bubba on April 24, 2009, 09:09:05 PM
Post by: Bishops Finger on April 24, 2009, 09:15:10 PM
Post by: greggmo on April 24, 2009, 11:24:14 PM
Post by: The Smiths on April 24, 2009, 11:48:43 PM
Post by: Bubba on April 25, 2009, 07:39:39 AM
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 25, 2009, 11:01:21 AM
Next im gonna avoid kinectic at all costs so therefore i need to find somewhere cheap that flogs decent size chain (any steers on where and what size?).
Do i take it the good old tow rope isnt up the job?
Followin from that, in the summer when i go and collect my parts from the Bubba Jeep Emporium, i build in time to go visit Greggmo for heavy duty bumpers and other parts that the good fella is gonna do for me - all easy, excellent help doods, thanks very much.
Post by: Lornaben on April 25, 2009, 11:17:02 AM
http://http://www.damarwebbingproducts.com/Offroad%20towing%20recovery%20straps.html
Post by: Bishops Finger on April 25, 2009, 11:23:59 AM
http://www.firstfour.co.uk/contact-us-2014.html (http://www.firstfour.co.uk/contact-us-2014.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Post by: Bubba on April 25, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 25, 2009, 11:51:03 AM
Post by: Dave69 on April 26, 2009, 09:44:48 AM
Quote from: "dxmedia"
Quote from: "daggie"get a front recovery point, by all means
but, whats wrong with the tow bar as a recovery point?
It's only rated at 3.5 tonne, put a kinetic on that with 10mph pull before the snatch and your in ripping the tow bar off territory.
you will find that the actual tow hitch has the rating for 3.5 tonnes, the tow bar assembly is rated higher.
Post by: dxmedia on April 27, 2009, 11:22:09 AM
Proper recovery gear will have a x3 SWL for towing and should have a x7 if it's lifting specs.
Be interesting to see what the shear ratings are for the 4 (?) bolts which hold the tow bar in is?
TBH they are pretty strong, I had an MU with a 3.5 tonne tow limit which was in a crash with a double axle ifor williams with a hilux on the back, the tow bar bracket bent but it held. Twisted the chassis, but held.
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 05, 2009, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: "V8 Bubba"
chain is king
20ft £27
14ft £17
same thickness, both with hooks, so experience says which?
Post by: JamesH on May 05, 2009, 01:22:47 PM
Quote from: "dxmedia"
and the rating is?
Proper recovery gear will have a x3 SWL for towing and should have a x7 if it's lifting specs.
Be interesting to see what the shear ratings are for the 4 (?) bolts which hold the tow bar in is?
My towbar is held in with 6 bolts along the body rails and 2 through the rear panel. I understand the point of SWL but I've seen less adequate fixings on most aftermarket 'recovery' bumpers.
Post by: The Smiths on May 05, 2009, 01:33:26 PM
The shear strength on one bolt is more than adequate - nevermind 6 bolts.
The frame bends before anything breaks - this then pushes the rear of the car up - which stops the boot opening / closing - depending which way it was :roll:
Post by: captain cavalier on May 07, 2009, 02:50:32 PM
There would be no chassis left by the time you broke all 12 on an xj towbar