Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Bishops Finger on May 12, 2009, 10:49:02 PM
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Are these getting quality closer to Brand names???
Bubba mentioned more remoulds are being sold as a green issue which I can understand
Prices are comparable for some brand names apart from BFG...
Useage is daily driver laning and 1-2 trips a year to Kernow etc
Any thoughts much appreciated...
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I had no probs with remoulds, but they were half the price of name brands. They do wear quicker.
If they're now similar price to a name brand, wouldn't be worth it IMO.
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I found the ones I had a tw@ to balance but they were cheap.
Part worn decent stuff for me now-let someone else take the hit.
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Have used Colways. Worked fine for me and the club rallying boys have used them for years.
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Have used Bronco Grizzly claws, Colway Muds and Insa Turbo. All with no probs and balanced (for what its worth, as the weights have a tendancy to come off after awhile froading) at the local tyre place.
Mark
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Got a set of insa turbo's rangers (bfg at copies) for the road, and a set of simex jungle trekker for off road. A pair of the insa's is the cost of one simex, and the insas can be ballanced with lead, the simex need 400g of beads per tyre.
Not always the case that the remoulds balance easier.
I think a biggie for me is if I tear an insa open laning then i'll cry a lot less than if it was a £150 bfg.
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looking into the future for a sec and possible intended legislation, to cut down on the amount of new tyres being produced,the governments from all over are looking into re-using casings. there is a mass used tyre mountain out there and they need to find a better way of recycling them so pretty soon remoulds will be the norm.
and eventually new tyres will be the rare thing and costly thing to get.
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looking into the future for a sec and possible intended legislation, to cut down on the amount of new tyres being produced,the governments from all over are looking into re-using casings. there is a mass used tyre mountain out there and they need to find a better way of recycling them so pretty soon remoulds will be the norm.
and eventually new tyres will be the rare thing and costly thing to get.
I had heard the same recently and that the old casings would return to the original manufacturer for them to 're-manufacture' so keeping a distinction from remoulds. Can't think what the difference would be myself
......except a reason to charge more for them!!!
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been using kingpinremoulds for the past 2.5yrs with no problems at all. the tyres now are past half way on the rears and just down to half worn on the front. the only other downside is that the surface is starting to show cracking so these will be replaced this year.
remoulds are now made alot better than they were in the 70's
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i now use kingpin remoulds and there great,they came in at about £35 each for AT,s,dont know what that is in dollars.
kingpin do tyres for trucks and aircraft also,there not a cowboy company.
regards
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They do fires as well...
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Wouldn't touch remoulds....
Have seen patches on the original carcass' of Insa, have seen Kingpins come apart from the carcass...
A mate worked in a tyre shop... they call remoulds kiddy killers.
If you wanna save money over BFG's I suggest Maxxis, excellent quality, price, range and 40+ years of development. Fantasic on road and awesome off road, even the standard muds (Buckshots are great off road... let alone creppy crawlers.)
We've seen many go from Insa's to Maxxis but no one has gone the other way....
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Wouldn't touch remoulds....
A mate worked in a tyre shop... they call remoulds kiddy killers.
Hmmmm, Colway tyres were approved for rally use, no other remould has been.
parents who can't be arsed to put their child into a child seat properly are called kiddy killers.
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Had Colways before, no probs with them. All remoulds sold here have to comply with standards so should be of acceptable quality. Tyres usually fail due to lack of maintenance or damage, they are not a 'fit and forget' item. How many of you guys check the tyre pressures on your daily driver regularly? I'll bet most don't bother till you notice one looks a bit soft.
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parents who can't be arsed to put their child into a child seat properly are called kiddy killers.
think the word "parents" is interchangeable with either pikey (drivin a 4x4) or chav (drivin a shit heap)
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nowt wrong with remoulds, its the idiot behind the wheel that runs 60mph rated tyres at 80mph then wonders why they fall apart thats the problem, just cos they are the same size doesn't meant they are rated at the same speed index and mud tyres are always rated lower.
as for people in tyre shops I am disinclined to listen to them as most are 17- 20 yr olds.....( kw*k f*t)
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i have no problem with remoulds as long as they are cheaper than the brands! i wasa despatch rider in a former life and regularly used remould bike tyres(think the firm has stopped doing them now) on a vfr and a hornet did lots of high speed miles(all with in the limit officer) and never had a problem.they gripped in the rain and lasted well,but even if didnt as long as they last long enough for me to get my moneys worth i was happy.i did 150 a few times with them for a long period and they got hot but never fell apart.
i think the bas press is from tyre dealers!! and people that cant pump up a tyre!
that said special traks are getting a bit pricey!
scotty
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Remolds are OK for off road...
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in other words slate the remoulds so the tyre fitter can get more commission on the brand name tyres.
brand tyres delaminate as well as remoulds
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i too have used a lot of remolds on trucks vans and 4x4s with no probs when looked after
i lso have used lots of new tyres that were crap yellow sea being one that springs to mind
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The trouble with remoulds is you do not know how old, abused or what the original tyre was or had happen to it.
According to the Insa website they check the carcass' and any problem ones are thrown out, so how come we've seem two patches on on tyre (sidewall repair, illegal) on the same tyre and then another with a patch? Both bought brand new for different vehicles.
As I mentioned earlier, Maxxis are often the same price or cheaper than Insa, why take the gamble?
As for my friend who worked in a tyre shop, late 20's, very fair, not on commission, saw a lot of remoulds fail and not many new tyres, yeah people don't check their pressures... but they saw a lot more remoulds failing than new tyres.
Tyres are of course the one thing that connects our Jeeps to the ground, with the tough stuff we put them through I'd rather buy new tyres.
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How many tyres out there have been stored in daylight and are over two years old and still being sold to the public as new due to the fact some of the joe public don't know how to read the tyre life code.
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For the important job that tyres do on and off road why always go for the cheapest?
I got a good deal on my Cooper's by shopping around and paying cash after a bit of haggling and even though they probably cost £15 more for each one than remoulds I have tyres that show little wear after 15k miles, are quiet and vibration free on the road and have a carcass designed for the job I use them for.
I have had remoulds once and I hated the noise, vibration and poor performance that came from terrible wear - never again for me, I'll save my money elsewhere.
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when I delivered for goodyear/dunlop, continental, kumho etc I often saw new tyres fail as well as remoulds, in all fairness new remoulds are actually barcoded on larger sizes and carcass numbers are also noted, carcases over 7 years old are not used for remoulds due to the age and like Dave says not many people know how to read to tyre age number,you will get 'new tyres' for your vehicle that are in fact over the 3 year limit that the big companies store them on their shelves, they are then sold onto discounters and then to you as new but at a bargain prices.
You think you are getting a 'new tyre' but what you are getting is a an out of date one!
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How many tyres out there have been stored in daylight and are over two years old and still being sold to the public as new due to the fact some of the joe public don't know how to read the tyre life code.
Excellent info, thanks, sometimes these kind of threads turn sour, but more often than not, little gems of info are shared and that makes the whole point of a forum.
As for vibration, many of us run Maxxis and never get them balanced.... they run fine at 70mph, happy days.
Cheers Maf
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if they be round and they be black its cool
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I was lucky when I got my BFGs .... as they were on a deal as we had done a BFG w/e at Tong and cheap tyres were the payment for 2 days of marshaling.
However 3 years down the line they are well rogered and chunked and lots of lines where they have spun mercilessly on rocks, still got loads of tread and stuff and allowed me to drive to and behave badly at cheapfest and drive home..... :icon_super: but next time it will be the look y likeys for me .... I don't can't go more than 70 (me arse won't allow it) and I quite fancy 37s next time........... oh dear :100: