Topic: Lift, Wheels, Tyres and protection (Read 12579 times)

chrisjones · « **Reply #25 on:** October 26, 2005, 10:57:43 PM »

No need for the fire proof pants!

You may struggle with clearance with the 12.5" tyres.

When on full lock they're gonna hit the inner arches unless you back your steering stops right off. (OK if you can live with the turning circle of a battle ship)

AND when you stuff the tyre right up into the arch on full conpression I think you'll find they hit the outside edge of the arch.

You're gonna struggle to find a tyre that's very good on and off road. you need to make a compromise. AT's are good all rounders but will suffer in the mud. Mud's are gonna suffer on wet roads.

What are you going to be driving on most of the time?

You could always get a cheap set of wheels and stick some colway muds on them just for off road.

chomper · « **Reply #26 on:** October 26, 2005, 11:52:59 PM »

Whatever you think about tyre suppliers, in my opinion whatever tyre you want you will never get it cheaper than at www.mytyres.co.uk

I paid £65 for my 33x12.50x15 Bridgestone Duellers. They're not the quickest delivery but they sure are cheap!

I think they are based in Germany but we won't hold that against them. Or will we???

chrisjones · « **Reply #27 on:** October 27, 2005, 12:06:45 AM »

Nope, not gonna hold that against them,.......they sure are cheep.

daggie · « **Reply #28 on:** October 27, 2005, 06:59:00 AM »

Don't forget,
start messing with larger tyres will fuck the gearing up :wink:
shock bushes
brake caliper rubber bushes
or the rear diff is fucked :roll:

Anonymous · « **Reply #29 on:** October 27, 2005, 08:17:19 AM »

Quote from: "chrisjones"

Nope, not gonna hold that against them,.......they sure are cheep. :smt117

Rikk · « **Reply #30 on:** October 27, 2005, 10:05:39 PM »

Right after lots of advice from all over I think I'm beggining to get there.

Tyres are looking like procomp x-terrains, to get 31 or close as possible I'll need to drop the rim size down to 15inches, buit I've had lots of people saying these are great on and offroad, any users?

Have to say after reading through a LOT of the nagca forums it's put me off the procomp lift quite a bit, I'm not sure if they just throw their jeeps around a lot more but I don't think I found one good word on there for performance and reliabilty and not wanting to spend much time tinkering due to lack of time and knowledge I'm looking elsewhere atm.

I spoke to a nice chap today who suggested 2 inch BB with rubicon express flex control arms and edelbrock shocks, I've heard a lot of very good things about these shocks so like the idea.
Only thing that put me off a little was the £850 for the 4 control arms, £220 for the BB and £120 for disconects. This struck me a little much as looking in the US the whole 3.5inch flex lift from rubicon is $850 and for £1300 I would want a bit more than the 2' BB with stock springs.

SO, I'm going to get a quote for the complete superflex and super ride kits and see what they.

Has anyone used the rubicon lifts at all??

While getting this done I'm probably going to put a snorkel on as going through anything deeper than a foot always makes me nervous, any pointers for easy to fit and good quality ones? Ia ssume this is an easy DIY job?

I'm currently looking at offroad mdg to do the work but stumbled across surrey offroad earlier while browsing, has anyone had any experience with these guys as they a sure a lot closer

Thanks for all the help and sorry about another load of Q's

............Rikk

chrisjones · « **Reply #31 on:** October 27, 2005, 10:10:10 PM »

Try 4WD Hardware for the lift. or Quadratec. They're both in the suppliers section. You'll get the stuff much cheaper if you buy direct from the states. :wink:

Anonymous · « **Reply #32 on:** October 27, 2005, 10:42:23 PM »

You're obviously M25 ish

SOR have built Jeeps for Jeep Uk but plenty will say MDG

daggie · « **Reply #33 on:** October 28, 2005, 05:57:45 AM »

Both, Mark @ MDG & Chris @ SOR are very good

My ZJ has the procomp suspension, the front is ok, but the back is way to soft, need to try some stiffer shocks.

but when they advise you heed their advice, otherwise reliability will become an issue.

Mike Pavelin · « **Reply #34 on:** October 28, 2005, 08:38:51 AM »

Rikk. If you're the Rikk I think you are, FTE is the nearest specialist to you by far. He's just up the A12 from you in Wickford. He deals mainly in Rubicon Express stuff. I saw him build an awesome ZJ with RE Longarm kit a little while ago, but he will obviously do smaller stuff as well. Steve is at SEMA in Vegas this week but give him a call in a couple of weeks and have a chat.
BTW, why not come to the next Essex pub meet, haven't seen you for a while.

Rikk · « **Reply #35 on:** October 28, 2005, 09:30:46 AM »

Daggie, cheers for that, thats the one thing I was worried about it being soft as I'd hate that with a passion.

Thanks Mike, yes I'm the same Rikk

Someone in Essex would be great, do you have a contact number for FTE at all please?

Keep meaning to get to the pub meet but things keep getting in the way usually involving long weekends of photography that leave me to tired on monday night. But thats all done for this season now so next one I'm def coming.

If I got the wheels and tyres now and took it very easy till I got the lift done would it rub in general use or just at extremes of suspension travel? Would be nice to get some bits sorted now and at least get used to the feel of the new wheels/tyres rathe than everything in one go.

Oh yea, when regearing is mentioned to compensate for larger tyres what is actually involved in that?

Cheers

............Rikk

Mike Pavelin · « **Reply #36 on:** October 28, 2005, 10:19:31 AM »

Ok, Rikk.
Steve is on 07973 198483. Although he's in the US at the moment he may still be taking calls, so give him a try.
In my opinion, up to 30" tyres you should be ok, at 31" you will definitely begin to notice a drop off in performance, so you may want to consider regearing if you go for 31s for road use with all the mileage you do. Depends on personal preference really. A spare set of 15" rims and some 31" muds for playtime (Colways at about £50 each and some XJ steels for about £50 a set should do) may be the way to go if you don't want to comprimise road handling and performance too much, just as long as you can be arsed to swap them around all the time.

Rikk · « **Reply #37 on:** October 28, 2005, 11:29:50 AM »

Cheers Mike, I've thought about a spare set but to be honest I'd never swap them over. No real place to store them and being disabled doing anything heavy or low down is hard so swapping each weekend would never happen.

How much would it cost to regear for the 31's? if it's not going to be anything to dramatic it would be worthwhile.

..........Rikk

Mike Pavelin · « **Reply #38 on:** October 28, 2005, 01:54:39 PM »

About a grand.

greggmo · « **Reply #39 on:** October 28, 2005, 08:40:39 PM »

regear for 31,s are ya mad?

:lol:

Bubba · « **Reply #40 on:** October 28, 2005, 10:29:39 PM »

Mike Pavelin · « **Reply #41 on:** October 29, 2005, 08:23:31 AM »

Rikk does a lot of miles, and I don't think he'd be happy with the way his Jeep would drive on 31s, as the ZG 4.0 ain't exactly a ball of fire at the best of times.

Anonymous · « **Reply #42 on:** October 29, 2005, 10:24:32 AM »

seconded, I do big miles and wont go over 30's on the xj as it really knocks the performance and mpg

Rikk · « **Reply #43 on:** October 30, 2005, 04:51:00 PM »

Sorry for the late reply, was shooting the last event of the season, scroll to the bottom for a couple of samples, bit of a change but I wasn't complaining

Hmmm, if it was a couple of hundred I'd go for it. Out of interest what do you actually replace/change when you regear?

So looks best to stick with 30's for the moment then, I think the procomps tend to come up a little small anyway, I'll check the dimensions and see.

I'll give FTE a ring Monday and have a chat, hopefully the insurance peeps will have replied by the end of the week with if they'l cover the mods or not and if so I can get moving.

...........Rikk

Tank · « **Reply #44 on:** October 30, 2005, 05:37:50 PM »

Hubba Hubba

Dodster · « **Reply #45 on:** October 30, 2005, 06:27:05 PM »

These 'Antiques Roadshow' presenters get younger and sexier every year.
:lol:

Rikk · « **Reply #46 on:** October 31, 2005, 10:03:36 AM »

I was shooting the final of the UK full contact sword fighting champs and there was a corset parade and later a full contact handbag tourney so was interesting

Anyway back to the plot

The procomp 31x10.5x15 come in at 30.5 inches so in the middle somewhere, there 2 inches wider and 1.5inches longer than the tyres I have on atm so will go out and check for clearance once the rain stops to be sure.
Just waiting on Scorpion racing to get back with if they can supply modular steel wheels to match as I'd like to get both wheels and tyres supplied at the same place and they seem the only people who do both.

If I'm careful would it be ok to get these on now? ie long as I don't go bonkers offroad I assume they wont rub on anything only on full travel?

Cheers

..........Rikk

Dingo · « **Reply #47 on:** October 31, 2005, 11:44:21 AM »

Back to the plot like hell...How do I enter the full contact handbag scrap?

Rikk · « **Reply #48 on:** October 31, 2005, 11:55:31 AM »

Unfortunatly it's just for the reenactor and traders, same with the corset parade.

Actually you could get into the corset parade like............

Oh yea and here's the combatants in the handbag tourney if you think your ard enough

Rikk · « **Reply #49 on:** November 16, 2005, 03:30:08 PM »

YAAAY

Spoke to the very nice guy Steve (think that was it I'm pants with names) at FTE. A nice breath of fresh air, seems honest, interested and knowledgable.
So just need to decide what wheels I want and the price he can get underbody protection for then it's all steam ahead

Only downside is loosing the GC for a week but I'd rather it was done properly and over a week than being thrown on over a couple of days.

So if the timings and verything work out well it may be done for 2nd week in Dec

Oh yea another little "upgrade" I now need done is hand controls, seems I'll be having my achiles tendon and all toe tendons lengthened just after and as my other leg is artificial it means I need hand controls to drive for 10-12 weeks, bet this will be the first lifted JGC they've had to put hand controls on

.............Rikk

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