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MK1

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« on: April 11, 2006, 08:45:15 PM »
The US sites that I have checked state that to run 35s on a CJ with a 4" lift and no bodywork cutting/trimming it also needs a 3" body lift.

4WD's Tech forum also says that its military wrap springs need lift shackles to best operate.

I have order a 2" body lift, and Phat Phux are making the shackles.

My question is: Should I go for 1 or 2" shackles, would 2" be too much?
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alcoholicmaggot

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2006, 08:51:21 PM »
i have a 2 inch shackle lift on my cj340 with ho worries
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2006, 09:09:35 PM »
you can have whatever size shackles you like mate..good job i aint made em yet aint it?????? :evil:
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2006, 09:12:53 PM »
I originally said +2, but when you ask what size I had finally decided you put doubts in my mind!!!
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2006, 09:15:28 PM »
just try it with the lift first then if you need more room we will make some. 8)
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2006, 09:52:49 PM »
One problem with 2 inch lift shackles(being 4 inches longer than standard) is they have a tendancy of digging in on steep declines!
I think greggmo's advice is good, see how you go first and if you need more room, then look at the alternatives.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2006, 09:55:14 PM »
& increasing spring wrap,mabe not so much on parabolics, though
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2006, 10:02:29 AM »
You need the longer shackles because the springs are more arched, so end up longer when flattened. If the shackles are too short they will limit flex and could even cause the spring to get stuck in an iverted arch if pushed too far.
When you get your new springs you can measure the overall eye to eye length and compare with stock. This should give an idea of how much extra length you need on your shackles to allow proper flex without having unnecessariliy long ones.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2006, 06:56:41 PM »
My query isn't so much 'are +2" shackles too long?' , more a case of 'is a 4" lift plus 2" BL plus 2" shackles too much combined'? Considering the Yanks suggest 4" lift plus 3" BL.

I believe Jason (Dark Rider) was using +2" shackles without a problem.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2006, 07:07:55 PM »
wont the body roll be a bit scary
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2006, 08:14:04 PM »
Quote from: "Mark Barrs"
My query isn't so much 'are +2" shackles too long?' , more a case of 'is a 4" lift plus 2" BL plus 2" shackles too much combined'? Considering the Yanks suggest 4" lift plus 3" BL.

I believe Jason (Dark Rider) was using +2" shackles without a problem.


You'll need the extended shackles else the springs can't work properly like Mike said.

If the yanks are runnung a 4" lift, regardless of how much body lift they have, they're running extended shackles too.  If they're not running the shackles they won't get full articulation and the suspension will be, well like not having any! :shock:
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2006, 10:19:00 PM »
Hi Mark

I run 2" shackles on my cj7 with a 2.5 inch lift. Greggmo made them for me and they work great with my 33" tyres. I have never had any problems after we gor the width right. The back is a different size to the front.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2006, 11:57:23 PM »
darky was runnin 33 i ran 35s with a 2inch body lift
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2006, 05:54:58 AM »
Bubba.

I seem to remember you describing you shackles as 'a Bubba lift' when ask what size they were!

Fuck it..... Greg, make the +2" shackles!!!  :smt023
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2006, 08:24:11 PM »
Now you are talking Mark.
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2006, 11:36:26 PM »
greg??? who is greg? ahh you meen greGG. cpool no probs. 8)
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