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[Badger]

I've converted several Land and Range Rovers for off road and expedition use over the years and am now thinking of doing the same to a 1996 Grand Cherokee Limited - 6cyl  4 litre petrol / LPG. The vehicle will be used both as my everyday car but also occasionally for some mild green laning and a trip or two into the edge of the Sahara. Whilst emporia selling bits and pieces for off roading Rovers are plentiful, I'm not finding many places doing parts for Jeeps in the UK. Can anyone out there suggest good places to look for :

1. A kit to raise the suspension an inch or two
2. Good bumpers
3. Light guards

Anyone here done any similar mods to a Grand Cherokee ?

[Bishops Finger]

First  thing is front/rear recovery points
Then drive it as standard to get used to it

Oh and check out the web sites for

NAGCA

Mallcrawlin.com
 and Kevins offroad to get some ideas

[Badger]

Well, I've been driving it as standard for three years so I think I may just about be used to it by now...  What I'm looking for is a UK based supplier of all the bits I stick on my Land and Range Rovers...

[Dodster]

As soon as i have the cash i will going for one of these for my zg..

http://www.knowwhere2jeep.com/catalog/p ... ts_id=3293

You are just as well off importing from the US in my opinion and its no hassle..

[BK]

Well, I've been driving it as standard for three years so I think I may just about be used to it by now...  What I'm looking for is a UK based supplier of all the bits I stick on my Land and Range Rovers...[/quote

try Dave at llama 4x4,he gets allsorts of stuff from the states,and quite reasonable,he gets stuff from these people www.roughcountry.com  or there is jeeperz creeperz on ebay.com(american)

[davethedog]

Hi have some rear hangers 1 1/4 inch longer than standard, direct replacement complete with top bush, £40 plus post
Regards Dave

[Mike Pavelin]

No good unless he converts to leaf springs!

[davethedog]

thanks for that

[Bulldog67]

try Dave at llama 4x4,he gets allsorts of stuff from the states,and quite reasonable,he gets stuff from these people www.roughcountry.com  or there is jeeperz creeperz on ebay.com(american)

Contacted him about some suspension stuff, had a chat and this was his view of what he is doing:

No problem... just let me know whenever you might want anything. As I say I get a delivery every 4 to 6 weeks so whenever won't be an issue...
The price will sort of depend on when you want it.... none of these items are in stock but any of them can leave the states at a moments notice. I bring stuff in about every month / 6 weeks and if you can wait for it to be added onto a shipment rather than getting it in as a special order that will save you literally hundreds of dollars on the shipping and therefore the price...
I am trying do do 'Jeep bits at Land Rover prices' as I am convinced they are way too dear over here. And as long as people can work with me on the shipping I will happily share the cheaper freight with them - if it is a rush job then it will be more but otherwise the prices we are paying over here is way too much..

cant recommend as i havent used him yet but the idea makes sense

[Bulldog67]

:lol:

[BK]

try Dave at llama 4x4,he gets allsorts of stuff from the states,and quite reasonable,he gets stuff from these people www.roughcountry.com  or there is jeeperz creeperz on ebay.com(american)

Contacted him about some suspension stuff, had a chat and this was his view of what he is doing:

No problem... just let me know whenever you might want anything. As I say I get a delivery every 4 to 6 weeks so whenever won't be an issue...
The price will sort of depend on when you want it.... none of these items are in stock but any of them can leave the states at a moments notice. I bring stuff in about every month / 6 weeks and if you can wait for it to be added onto a shipment rather than getting it in as a special order that will save you literally hundreds of dollars on the shipping and therefore the price...
I am trying do do 'Jeep bits at Land Rover prices' as I am convinced they are way too dear over here. And as long as people can work with me on the shipping I will happily share the cheaper freight with them - if it is a rush job then it will be more but otherwise the prices we are paying over here is way too much..

cant recommend as i havent used him yet but the idea makes sense

I have!!! excellent service,rung him up,ordered it,sent him a cheque,waited for it to clear,stuff arrived by courier (nowt to pay),job done,good service,cant recommend him enough

[Badger]

I'm thinking of lifting the Grand Cherokee using one of these kits

http://www.rcjeepliftkits.com/products/ ... t_kit.html

and so would appreciate recommendations for suitable tyres to go on afterwards. The vehicle will be used primarily on the road, and when it does venture off road it will be on dry (very dry) dirt tracks. I'm thinking of a set of Falken T110 but am not sure what size would be best.

[tartanzj]

Hi Badger,

That 4" kit is designed for LHD jeeps so the trackbar brackets would be next to useless and at that height you need everything re-aligned so you would have to get a RHD set made. This would add a bit to the total cost.
You could get away with putting on a 2" lift and running 31" tyres if you are generally going to be running on dry dirt tracks where you won't need a huge amount of articulation.
I ran a 2" BB for a couple of years on 31" BFG AT's. You get a big improvement off-road for not a lot of outlay and you don't loose much in the way of on road handling. My ZJ is on a 4.5" lift now and it has to be driven much more carefully on the road now.
If you want to run bigger than 31" tyres as a daily driver you will also need to  re-gear your axles which won't be cheap so I would suggest running on a 2" boost first, it may be all you need.

Either way let us know how you get on.

As for tyres I can't fault the BFG AT for on-road grip and they perform pretty well off-road too, only really struggling in thick mud where they struggle to self clean.

Steve

[Badger]

Hmmm, it looks like I may well have to reconsider that 4inch lift.

2 inches ought to be adequate for most of my needs - the Cherryoky isn't going to be used off road in this country - here, where mud is concerned, I'll be using my Land Rover. The Cherryoky is used as my on road car in the UK, hence the Falken tyre choice (and I have had a few unpleasant experiences with BFG ATs so wouldn't use them again anyway). Where's the best place to get a 2" lift kit from for a RHD Grand Cherryoky ?

The standard size tyres are 225 70 R16 - if I kept the same 16 inch rims would a 235 70 tyre fit without fouling the arches ?

[tartanzj]

With my 2" BB I only caught the front wheel arch on max articulation with the anti-roll bar disconnected using 31" tyres. 235/70R16 is about 29" so you may be able to use that size without any lift at all.
You can probably use a 2" lift from anywhere, shocks, springs and spacers are universal its only when you need to change the trackbar that the USA kits don't suit as a simple bolt on.
Your choice if you go for 2" lift is whether to go for a budget boost or use longer springs. If your going the BB route I still have my 2" spring poly spacers around somewhere if your interested.

Steve

[JamesH]

What tank setup do you have with your LPG, do you still have the stock petrol tank? I'm just  thinking that for expedition type stuff you want as much range as possible and LPG might be hard to get in far flung places. France and Spain are fine but I'd guess it's near impossible to get LPG reliably in Africa and given most Jeeps only do 200 road miles on a tank of LPG (less offroad of course) it might cause problems. Having the standard petrol tank still would mean you could run on that of course and have a better range also.

I'm not criticising in anyway, I have an LPG conversion on my XJ but because it replaced the stanard petrol tank the expedition type driving would be near impossible without a roof rack covered in jerry cans  

[Badger]

The original fuel tank has been replaced with a combined tank holding 12 gallons of LPG and 4 gallons of petrol, hence you're quite right: serious expedition use of the Jeep in Africa is out of the question. I use my Land Rover for any serious off roading anyway (Will that get me burnt as a heretic ?). The Grand Cherokee is my on-road UK car where its comfort wins out over a 1962 SWB Land Rover, and the 22 mpg on a fuel costing 55p / litre is much appreciated. The lift kit is mainly being fitted for aesthetic reasons...