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Nosebolt

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Should the indicators melt?
« on: September 02, 2008, 04:49:21 PM »

took the wagon for a test drive today, only 30 miles round trip to Bath College (wifes work) and back, anyway when I got there Tan came out to chat and promptly asked if the indicators should be melted?



my first thought was I fitted 6v indicators by mistake, but I have cecked the packaging and the burnt bulbs and its all 12v.

I have changed them now but havent really worked out why it happened, the battery did go flat last night which ment the alarm was going off for almost 30 mins, this is what I hope has caused it but I have a nagging feeling it might be due to the fact that there are no side repeaters fitted,

question; would having only one bulb in the line cause it to overheat to this degree?

other than that it drove straight, pulled well if a bit smokey, lots of noises but with no trans cover fitted yet prob sounds worse than it is, and lots of new smells (hopefully just dust and greasy hand prints burning off)
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 05:02:50 PM »

the only real reason I can see why it would have melted is the bulb wattage is to high, thus generating to high an internal temperature,( or like you say prolonged use while stationary) you could try lowering the wattage but that may in turn create the problem of the lamps then flashing to slowly, the fact there is no side repeater shouldn't do anything to it .
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 05:32:42 PM »

I'm useing 12v 21w bulbs, can't see in the manual what they should be it just gives a 4 digit code, does anyone know if what I've used is ok?
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 05:41:57 PM »

thats a bit high for such a small casing , you could go down  to 12v 10 watt side light bulbs  but like i say may slow the flash rate
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 07:10:26 PM »

I reckon the heat from 21 watts will definitely melt a small holder.

Have you looked at LEDs? They use very small amounts of power and run virtually cold.

I’ve just done a quick search on ebay and came across these:


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-x-1156-WHITE-24 ... 286.c0.m14

I’m sure there are different ones to chose from.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 07:21:01 PM »

I have used off the shelf motorbike indicators with the bulbs they were supplied with so I would hope they could handle it. After the info here I'm more inclined to think it was the alarm issue that caused it.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2008, 08:12:17 PM »

That would mean you were pumping 12 volts through 6 volt bulbs.
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Nosebolt

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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2008, 08:18:35 PM »

no they were 12v bulbs, when it was first noticed i thought i had made a mistake and used 6v kit but that was not the case, i fitted another set (these are nicer, they were for my trike) and run on hazards for 10 mins and they dont get hot, got another test drive planed for tomorow so hopefuly will see then
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2008, 08:36:00 PM »

21w for an indicator bulb were they a planes landing light ?  drop to a lower wattage and you should be fine. LED indicators are fine but you might need a resistor in the feed to reduce the flash rate as it will be too high as the LED doesn't have the same resistance as a normal bulb.


i run 100/130w H4 bulbs in my bike, the wiring has been uprated and when it rains there is nice puffs of steam off the lens, plus i can see where i'm going properly now
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2008, 08:29:23 AM »

All our wagons use 5watt bulbs in the marker light you only need 21watt for stop & tail
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008, 10:17:45 AM »

Yeah i thought 21 watt was for brake lights
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 12:36:09 PM »

On cars/trucks etc. front and rear indicators should be 21 Watt. Side markers are usually 3-5 Watt. The ones pictured seem to look like motorcycle indicators which I think are 10 Watt.
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