Topic: TJ Dana 44 (rear) Pinion bearing (Read 3359 times)

willo · « **on:** November 18, 2011, 09:25:13 PM »

How can I test if it is fubar? I have some strange knocking noises/feeling through gearstick going on underneath that only seem to happen in 1st and a bit in 2nd. It's not as bad in 4wd.

My plan in the morning is to have the rear diff pan off to check oil and teeth

Nosebolt · « **Reply #1 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:30:57 PM »

take off the prop and check for play or grinding

isle of man · « **Reply #2 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:33:08 PM »

Check your UJ's are not seized.

willo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:02:18 PM »

Quote from: isle of man on November 18, 2011, 09:33:08 PM

Check your UJ's are not seized.

cool, will do

Thanks NB

perhaps its worth mentioning that the rear diff seems to be running hot

willo · « **Reply #4 on:** November 19, 2011, 04:39:47 PM »

ok, so I took off my rear prop and noticed that the Double Cardan ball-y bit is dry as and seems to have lots of play/ clunky movement. I have a spare front prop with a DC on one end which feels substantially better. Am I able to swap one with the other? is it a PITA job? or should I pack it with grease and hope for the best, get 7 sisters out of the way (next weekend) and then try to rebuild/get it rebuilt.

Payday is on Friday and at the moment I am operating on an ants shoestring so can't afford anything spent on it

Bubba · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2011, 04:45:12 PM »

they are not woth cost or pain in my opinion

willo · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2011, 05:18:08 PM »

Quote from: V8 Bubba on November 19, 2011, 04:45:12 PM

they are not woth cost or pain in my opinion

sorry, what isn't?

Bubba · « **Reply #7 on:** November 19, 2011, 05:22:34 PM »

sorry them double carden rear shafts i understand all there benifits but give me a normal uj all day long

Nosebolt · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2011, 05:48:45 PM »

Quote from: V8 Bubba on November 19, 2011, 05:22:34 PM

sorry them double carden rear shafts i understand all there benifits but give me a normal uj all day long

sorry m8 but this time your wrong, they have a purpose, sometimes a single UJ just wont do the job

Bubba · « **Reply #9 on:** November 19, 2011, 05:56:42 PM »

like i say i fully understand there use and aplication and for me i would have less lft or another work around they are to dear for servicing and purchase for my liking and fail with bad consequences

its not a question of right or wrong merly taste

a single uj can be easily fixed in the field several times over to the cost of a cardon jointed shaft

your right they do have a place and for me its on the expensive shelf of the maker and not on my jeep

JamesH · « **Reply #10 on:** November 19, 2011, 06:18:12 PM »

They can be rebuilt but the full set of parts will cost almost as much as a new one or professional re-furb of your knackered one from my experience. Somewhere around the £300 mark, especially if you want it done quickly

isle of man · « **Reply #11 on:** November 19, 2011, 10:38:32 PM »

As I suspected...Replace it asap.

willo · « **Reply #12 on:** November 20, 2011, 09:04:40 AM »

Quote from: isle of man on November 19, 2011, 10:38:32 PM

As I suspected...Replace it asap.

Well done! I think I will wait till Dana 300 is in till I replace it, pack it with grease and hope for the best for the moment!

daggie · « **Reply #13 on:** November 20, 2011, 09:31:49 AM »

Willo
I wouldn't trust it
had a dc go on me before in less than a mile

Bubba · « **Reply #14 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:22:18 AM »

ivan had one ceaze on him tearing the transfer box of the main gear box scrapping both

willo · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2011, 08:51:09 PM »

Quote from: V8 Bubba on November 20, 2011, 10:22:18 AM

ivan had one ceaze on him tearing the transfer box of the main gear box scrapping both

Hmm, doom and gloom then.

After removing my rear diff cover I found a shed load of metal filings in the oil and upon further inspection, I have found that one of the arb short spider gear shafts has come loose and has been on and off having a few tete a tete's with the pinion gear

Bubba · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2011, 09:11:28 PM »

ouch i am sorry for ya mate

willo · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2011, 09:30:49 PM »

according to the exploded diagram, there is a locking screw on the shaft, I'm hoping that's missing, and i have something that will plug the hole otherwise its no 7s for me

JamesH · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2011, 09:50:43 PM »

Are you trailering to 7S? If so you might be able to sort it with grease and a few bodges but it sounds like an expensive proper fix afterwards

willo · « **Reply #19 on:** November 20, 2011, 10:10:18 PM »

yes, trailering to 7s potentially.
Looking at the exploded diagrams again it seems I have the older type arb which has locking screws but are under a bit of casing, so unless I can strip the arb and fix it, I don't know, do i just go and hope for the best? the spider gear can't come out and James yes I think you are correct, its looking like an expensive repair, in fact having re-assessed the whole rear end today, the whole lot needs re-working as its not really working right at the moment.

Hmm, new arb, new dc prop shaft, maybe new R&P and bearings, new rear shock mounts and new shocks, seems I'd better enter that millionaire a week thing....got my crimbo list sorted

wildwood · « **Reply #20 on:** November 21, 2011, 11:05:39 AM »

Quickand cheaper fix would be a spool if and only if you go by trailer................

isle of man · « **Reply #21 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:48:31 PM »

Dana 60!!!

wildwood · « **Reply #22 on:** November 21, 2011, 01:46:43 PM »

There's still that one on the bay in merseyside ........... £295.........from a chevyvan/motorhome...we now think is a Dana70............. lockright and ring and pinion change and weld on TJ bits and could be on your rig for £750 ish....better than rebuilt 44 with ailing australian stuff in the pig........(stir stir)

Just think......... 5,000 rpm dump clutch and no worries of a breakage

I must now appologise for spending the money of others in my lunch break

willo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 21, 2011, 02:20:45 PM »

or those tera 60's that were on the bay...

Perhaps its time to stop, pause and reflect for a while, work my ass off in a bid to save up for a year to follow the wonton trail.

Trouble is, i'll always find something else to spend it on.

For the moment at least, a plan has been hatched so i can still get to 7sisters, now. Wheres that welder...

wildwood · « **Reply #24 on:** November 21, 2011, 03:18:36 PM »

Now there's an idea......weld up the platetaries and case..... after taking out ARB....... (you'l need original carrier for that tho.......?) then its only £300 for the prop.....

Oh.......tis never finished

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