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Charl1e

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SYE needed or longer prop???
« on: January 29, 2013, 03:35:34 PM »

I'm going to be adding a few inches to my current 3.5 inch lift upto 5.5-6.5"
Do I need a SYE or can I just fit a custom propshaft instead???
Any thoughts???
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 03:41:22 PM »

Some say you should be using an SYE anyway. But if your going that hight then it would be the best way to go.
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 04:27:54 PM »

Don't mean to sound blonde, but what exactly does a SYE do apart from make the prop longer is it???
At the moment I have a 1" drop kit to stop the vibrations, I thought a longer prop would be easier than having to chop bits off the t case & drill bits etc.
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 04:37:05 PM »

SYE "reduces" the gap to the rear axle thus allowing more movement to the articulation!!!
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 04:49:09 PM »

Though getting rid of slip yok would mean you need a longer prop as you cut off half of the splined shaft from the TC to fit SYE :017:
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 04:57:39 PM »

So I'm going to need a longer prop anyway aswell as a SYE????
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 05:16:34 PM »

you need a new prop any way
A telescopic prop not a fixed one as the slip yoke will not be there to allow the axle to move up and down
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 05:23:40 PM »

Ah right, so it's not as simple as a longer prop then  :011:
Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent one (that's not worth more than my xj)???
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 05:32:36 PM »

Only the cheap sye kits will have cut, chop and drill the stock shaft. Any of the good ones will include a new output shaft that is much larger and stronger then stock and will have a yoke or flange to match.

I have a JB Conversions kit and have never had trouble.

And yes it does suck when you break the stock output shaft and all the transfer case oil drops on the ground.
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2013, 05:57:43 PM »

I have a Rubicon Express 'hack n tap' SYE kit and modified front propshaft fitted to it. Fitting a SYE means you can fit a prop with a double cardan joint (like your front prop has near the transfer case) and a slip joint in the prop (also like your front prop). This copes with the increased angles on a lifted Jeep much better than correcting angles and lengthening a 'standard' rear prop.

I have to add that going to 5"+ of lift from where you are now involves quite a lot of angle correcting. If you haven't got an adjustable trackbar I'd budget for that plus a new bracket on the body side of it to drop it a bit and match the drop with a dropped pitman arm for the steering box. Longer brakelines front and back, move the handbrake cable bracket and/or get longer cables. Don't look at your front control arm angle once lifted or you'll start pricing up longarm kits and that WILL be more than the Jeep is worth.

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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2013, 07:32:54 PM »

I'm looking at a long arm kit from IRO the guys seem pretty helpful. I've put aside a budget for adjustable arms, trackbar and pitman arm bits aswell. I don't plan on selling my xj or getting rid of as its low mileage and is having LPG at the end if the month. So I guess a hack n tap is the way forward then.
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2013, 07:45:48 PM »

I'm looking at a long arm kit from IRO the guys seem pretty helpful. I've put aside a budget for adjustable arms, trackbar and pitman arm bits aswell. I don't plan on selling my xj or getting rid of as its low mileage and is having LPG at the end if the month. So I guess a hack n tap is the way forward then.

If you are going to make the commitment Charlie rather than sniff the shiet look at Clayton he does a long arm that works!!!
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2013, 08:02:49 PM »

The longarm kit that I put on my XJ from Rough Country was well made and flexed very well. It was easy to install aswell I had the whole lot fitted in about 3 hours.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2013, 08:05:05 PM »

The longarm kit that I put on my XJ from Rough Country was well made and flexed very well. It was easy to install aswell I had the whole lot fitted in about 3 hours.

Rob you-de-man for the three hour wounder!!!
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Re: SYE needed or longer prop???
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2013, 08:48:00 PM »

Not all long arm setups are the same - there are y arms, 3 link , and 4 link. Probably makes little difference but thought I'd point it out. I have the Full Traction kit which is a 4 link.
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