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Big-G

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Ignition problems
« on: January 20, 2014, 09:43:28 AM »

Morning all.

After a bit of advice, I was out laning in the jeep yesterday and after going through a fairly deep ford (3.5-4Ft) she started to missfire quite badly. I tickled it back to a mates nearby and took the dizzy cap off and dryed it, sprayed the leads and checked the CPS, Camshaft sensor, and coil for wet plugs. Still missed, on both petrol and LPG. Checked the fault codes and it only reported o2 sensor (which I think is an old code). She does occasionally moan about water, usually the revs will drop off to ~500rpm and then rapidly pick up again, seems to sort its self after a few minutes. Not missfired this badly before.

Attemped a drive home with alot of popping and banging hoping (well youve got to give it a go, right? :003:) something may dry out/warm up and I did maybe 15 miles before it completely died on me. No spark at all.  :icon_rolleyes:

I have had a CPS go on me whilst laning late last year, but that litterally just stopped. Does a failing CPS cause backfiring etc? I didnt think CPS because it was starting fine every time whilst I was trying to fix it.

Any ideas on where to look? I was going to test the CPS when I get home as its shown up fault code 11, but this can also be camshaft/dizzy sensor? not sure how to test that one.

Its a 1993 4L HO with 94K on the clock.

Thanks in advance  :icon_biggrin:
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JamesH

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Re: Ignition problems
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2014, 01:43:22 PM »

The 93 is slightly different to mine (98) but I've had a lot of coughing an spluttering to deal with and it is normally the sensors and ignition areas you've looked at. Can definitely be the cam sensor, the crank sensor is likely to just kill it outright but can cause some splutter if reading and not reading intermittently very quickly.

Another thing would be the fuel pump. There is a wiring connector under the car (at least there is on mine), the fuel pump itself and also the slight risk you go water into the fuel tank.
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Re: Ignition problems
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2014, 06:32:56 PM »

The O2 sensor needs oxygen to get to the inside of the sensor so it can compare to the exhaust. I believe the Jeep sensors have a tiny hole in the middle of the wires for that purpose. If it's got blocked by shite it could be causing the problem. Try disconnecting the sensor and seeing how it runs. If it runs OK it would suggest the sensor is bad.

The sensors typically have a life of 100k miles anyway so if it's the original sensor it might just have reached the end of it's life.
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Re: Ignition problems
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 06:00:06 PM »

Thanks guys, been out with a nice multimeter just now. Measured 5v feed to the CPS, good ground to the CPS, but found a resistance across b & c pins of ~6.4K ohms, which says dead CPS to me. Coil tested good 12v feed. Also tested the injectors with a test lamp and had no signal to them, which backs up CPS. Looks like its time for a new one. Not tested the can sensor as I'm unsure how to.

You learn something every day ey?  :icon_biggrin:
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