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Author Topic: Air Con Gas Type ??  (Read 5022 times)

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RoyLittle0

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Air Con Gas Type ??
« on: September 04, 2007, 10:58:35 PM »

When i bought the jeep it had no airconditioning working and i am trying to get it sorted out, apparently cars built after 1992 usually had the R134a gas and the earlier had R12, the cost to fill a R134a would be around £40 but the R12 would be £90 to include the conversion to R134a.

What would a 1993 Cherokee have been filled with and how can you tell, i can't see any visable labels "stating the obviouse" but it is the old style air con connectors and what would the conversion consist of apart from flushing and refilling with the correct oil??
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2007, 12:45:37 AM »

a 93 might be filled with R12 or it could have been converted. If the aircon connections are the car valve type then it is R12. The R134a are a much larger valve
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Mike Pavelin

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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2007, 09:02:07 AM »

1993 XJs were usually R12. Look at the service valves. Take th edust cap off one. If the valve is threaded on the outside it's an R12. There should also be an information sticler somewhere under the hood.

A proper retro fit 134a conversion and involves replacing the hoses and valves, flushing the system replacing all the lubricant before recharging, but this costs hundreds. The cheapest way is to remove the old R12, inject a special additive that makes the original lubricant compatible with R134a, put adaptors on the original valves and recharge to 80% of the original capacity with 134a. Proper A/C specialists frown on this method but it does work.

£90 is cheap anyway.
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RoyLittle0

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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 12:57:33 PM »

Are there replacement pipes available to swap the old R12 connectors for the R134a connectors, the steel pipes within the engine bay are past there best so it may be better to replace them for the propper parts rather than modifying them to fit
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Mike Pavelin

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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 06:34:29 PM »

Leave them alone, they corrode onto the condensor and you could end up buggering it up.
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