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[xr6jeeper]

Absolutely no rush at all, I have quite specific ideas but they are only ideas. Kind of semi-internal, semi external cage and justed wanted to know someone that might be able to do it. I have to do some body reinforcements first becaue it's a unibody on a Cherokee.

Okey dokey james, give me a shout nearer the time.

 Geoff.

[greggmo]

cold drawn tube is best for cages but it aint cheap and not many places stock it. scafold tube is good but try bendin it

[JamesH]

The only quote I have had was about £120 per 6m length and that was through an engineering company that I have contacts in. What total length of tube would you expect to use on a Cherokee size cage with (probably) six body/frame mounting points (3 main hoops)??

[doublej]

The only quote I have had was about £120 per 6m length and that was through an engineering company that I have contacts in.

Whats size tubing is that and what wall thickness, its not far off what ive been quoted.

What total length of tube would you expect to use on a Cherokee size cage with (probably) six body/frame mounting points (3 main hoops)??

that my friend only you can answer, tape measure basic shapes of where u want the hoops and always round up. no matter who you are, when you start making anything with tubing - it goes quick.

or if your good ole Ponyracer, it quickly goes across the street in the grass!?!?!

[JamesH]

Measuring is the only sensible way but I'm stuck at work and needed a little distraction - thinking about making stuff and driving on the rocks keeps me going  

I'll get some picture of NAXJA later, have you got any of Ponyracer's cage.

P.S. I think the tube was something like 1.75" OD 0.120" wall CDS but it may have been a metric equivalent, 45mm OD 3mm or 3.5mm wall. It was a while ago and I was enquiring about it to build a tube bumper not a cage so this may not be the right spec for a cage.

[Nosebolt]

Got the name of a trade supplier who is willing to supply us as club members, delivery is only available within 50 miles of Bristol but I am happy to take delivery if you want to collect it from me

Supplier:

Fred R Powell & Son Ltd
Unit 1 Avonside Ind Park
Avonside Road
BRISTOL
BS2 OTS

0117 9717971

Quote:
44.45x2.64 CDS TUBE 5.6mtr LENGTHS  £42.34
47.63x3.25 CDS TUBE 5.6mtr LENGTHS  £63.50

 
 7-10 DAY DELV.
 IF YOU WANT A LARGE QUANTITY
 AT ONE TIME WE CAN GET YOU A
 BETTER PRICE...

Prices plus vat

If you want to order your self, feel free to call them, quote ref; 298511 and my name (Bruce)

[xr6jeeper]

I think you guys have all the right contacts to get the tube for a decent price, so ill bow out .

[greggmo]

oi hang on before ya run off :lol:

[xr6jeeper]

oi hang on before ya run off :lol:

Sorry greg! i didnt mean to piss anybody off, you guys an gals seem to know what youre doing, and where to get the best materials to do the job so i thought id bow out gracefully.
The roll cages i make take a fair while to design and build, so i couldnt really give a price without having the jeep in the workshop and discussing what the owner wants .
Theres so much to it..... 4 point... 6 point .. then theres the cage that goes through the floor and links into the chassis.
At the end of the day what it boils down to is a lot of work .
I would like to think that one of my cages would save a life. Providing the person in the vehicle had a 5 point harness on and the seat was mounted correctly theres no reason why they shouldnt be able to take a big tumble and walk away laughing.

Ive had a roll cage i made crash at 300mph and the guy walked away , what more can i say.  

[xr6jeeper]

I forgot to say, i wasnt tryin to drum up work i just wanted to know what roll cages you  guys were using.

[greggmo]

you aint pissin no one off mate. all is cool. it would be nice to see an external cage available for jeeps that dont cost an arm and a leg ya see. i am gona fab some stuff for mine soon and i know it will take time but its all good fun. i enjoy making stuff for the jeeps but sometimes it would be nice to see the stuff available at a fair price for those who cant make their own. get designing somethin mate cos i am sure there is a market.

[Nosebolt]

Geoff we need members willing to make kit for those who can’t or don’t have time.

True there’s a few on here who could build a rig from the tyres up, but I bet there’s a few who would have trouble fitting seat covers And every skill level in-between.

[xr6jeeper]

you aint pissin no one off mate. all is cool. it would be nice to see an external cage available for jeeps that dont cost an arm and a leg ya see. i am gona fab some stuff for mine soon and i know it will take time but its all good fun. i enjoy making stuff for the jeeps but sometimes it would be nice to see the stuff available at a fair price for those who cant make their own. get designing somethin mate cos i am sure there is a market. :wink:

[xr6jeeper]

Geoff we need members willing to make kit for those who can’t or don’t have time.

True there’s a few on here who could build a rig from the tyres up, but I bet there’s a few who would have trouble fitting seat covers :-)

[JamesH]

Having someone who can bend tube and fit it to a vehicles is actually quite a hard find! Just because some of us know what to use and have design ideas doesn't mean we can build a cage. I'd be happy to pay several hundred pounds + materials for a cage that had some of the design ideas I wanted.

The last enquiry I made was for a front 'cage' (A+B pillars, external A and internal B - like a lot of Landrovers have) and it was £1200 +VAT. I'd like to have a 'fullsize' cage for that kind of money, something that would protect me and a lot of the body of the vehicle during a typical off road roll accident (i.e. not 300 mph, just a slow tumble, 3 at worst).

[xr6jeeper]

Having someone who can bend tube and fit it to a vehicles is actually quite a hard find! Just because some of us know what to use and have design ideas doesn't mean we can build a cage. I'd be happy to pay several hundred pounds + materials for a cage that had some of the design ideas I wanted.

The last enquiry I made was for a front 'cage' (A+B pillars, external A and internal B - like a lot of Landrovers have) and it was £1200 +VAT. I'd like to have a 'fullsize' cage for that kind of money, something that would protect me and a lot of the body of the vehicle during a typical off road roll accident (i.e. not 300 mph, just a slow tumble, 3 at worst).

Ill have a look at a few landy pics, to get an idea of what youre after james.

[captain cavalier]

If you go to a pipelinecentre (big brother of plumb centre same company)
they hire out pneumatic pipe benders which are not very big and should be cheap to hire

[Warthog]

Ill have a look at a few landy pics, to get an idea of what youre after james.

Basic truck cab lardie cage (External)

[xr6jeeper]

Ill have a look at a few landy pics, to get an idea of what youre after james. :wink:

[Warthog]

If you really want to research cages for Jeeps then; http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/ is a good place to start

[xr6jeeper]

If you really want to research cages for Jeeps then; http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/ is a good place to start

[Bubba]

i will have what you trow away