Topic: M715 power brake and steering upgrade (Read 11163 times)

Bulldog67 · « **on:** June 14, 2012, 06:17:34 PM »

Ok, the kaisers brakes needs the M/C plumbing in etc, so it makes sense to me that I skip fitting the stock one supplied and upgrade to the hydroboost unit, which would then allow me to have power brakes and power steering. However that is as far as my brain takes me. I dont want to many upgrades but this is def one, plus it needs doing anyway as I currently have no brakes.

As a reminder its a 6.354 perkins diesel engine.

Does birtys collective knowledge stretch far enuff to tell me what needs to be done and bought in a step by step idiots formula?

M715zone dont seem to helpful on tech probs

The hydroboost is from here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=106056

Much appreciated

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2012, 10:43:44 PM »

Kwik Fit?

?...wonders off laffing...

Dave The Sparky · « **Reply #2 on:** June 14, 2012, 11:07:42 PM »

Has the m715 got power steering to start with?

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2012, 08:32:45 AM »

nope

im thinkin an AMC V8 transplant could be the answer coz no-one seems to be able to answer me on any forum

wildwood · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2012, 09:28:00 AM »

Had a google about your Perkins engine....... made the company sucessful.... one of the first high speed diesels and good in original trim for 120bhp and more as a turbo...... used in trucks etc.....

Couldn't find any torque figs but with 5.8 lites of straight 6 its gotta be good.......

Most googling will reveal it being used as a marine engine...... so no brakes....

The key to a successful hydroboost system is the master cylinder servo/nitrogen canister assembly and the power steering pump.....various guys in the US do em......but all the good write ups and articles I have googled in the past are for VANCO....who seem to tailor make systems for the end user.....

Have you tried Perkins or any associated forum?

As a side note you'll never have spares or getting it fixed issues...many experts around me ......being 12 miles from Peterborough

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2012, 11:13:44 AM »

hadnt thort of a perkins forum tbh

have woken with a lack of enthusiasm so im gonna put it 2gether in stock and then figure out what to do later, will just have to have shit brakes and build up some shoulder and forearm muscle to move 35's with no power steering

on the plus side if its a marine engine i can sell it to Bish when i pull it out

cheers Jez

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 15, 2012, 11:15:20 AM »

or i will wake up re-invigorated 2mrw and start the search again

maybe even track down a diesel expert

there must be someone out there that can do it

bubba can but he is only havin baby trucks from now on

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #7 on:** June 15, 2012, 11:36:44 AM »

Quote from: Bulldog67 on June 15, 2012, 11:13:44 AM

hadnt thort of a perkins forum tbh

have woken with a lack of enthusiasm so im gonna put it 2gether in stock and then figure out what to do later, will just have to have shit brakes and build up some shoulder and forearm muscle to move 35's with no power steering

on the plus side if its a marine engine i can sell it to Bish when i pull it out

cheers Jez

Fawk off you southern yokel...

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #8 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:58:03 PM »

why not take a look at the Isuzu 2.8, or 3.1 turbo diesel , they are very easy to wire in and give decent mpg as well, a lot of guys are fitting them into lardies and getting 40+ mpg cheap to source as well

Delk · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2012, 12:56:04 PM »

Some alternators for diesels have a built in vacuum pump so you can can run a standard brake booster.

bigjeepzj · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2012, 02:11:02 PM »

the alternator with the vacuum pumps on the rear need an oil feed to the or they will seize
best get an engine with one on

daggie · « **Reply #11 on:** June 16, 2012, 05:17:14 PM »

http://www.jpmagazine.com/projectbuild/154_0807_1968_m715_power_steering_m_truck_to_moab/index.html

in the right direction

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 16, 2012, 06:43:48 PM »

cheers Daggie, met a fella today openin up a 4x4 workshop and so he may get the job, just need to find out how to do it on the cheap coz the saignaw box is heartbreakin expensive

Bubba · « **Reply #13 on:** June 16, 2012, 06:46:59 PM »

i would get the fucker rollin first you got years to spoil..i mean mod it

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 16, 2012, 06:52:42 PM »

100%, have already started that ball rolling, but power steering has to be a close to the first job

I had a moment of friday when i was lookin at the kaiser when i was thinkin its lovely but what the fuck am i gonna do with this

and then i realised it has to be useable

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #15 on:** June 16, 2012, 06:56:36 PM »

if you drove it more, your arms would man up and get strong enough to spin the wheel or you can convert it to powering steering and keep ya girly ones malibu.

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:11:13 PM »

you are forgetting I have met you

however, part of the thrill of gettin paid is that it allows me to make my life a bit easier

Bubba · « **Reply #17 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:13:19 PM »

i just had a cruel but funny thought

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:29:46 PM »

yeah but pickin on panic is too easy so it should be reeled in as much as poss

Bubba · « **Reply #19 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:38:36 PM »

it was both of ya to be honest but its far to cruel and funny for putting in writing.................funny thing is i dont feel cruel or twisted tonight

i best keep it to myself

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #20 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:42:24 PM »

go for it.

Bubba · « **Reply #21 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:43:11 PM »

nahh

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #22 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:45:56 PM »

you going all southern on me?

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:49:09 PM »

Im goin thru a moon phase of insecurity so can ya just slag panic off by pm and keep it gentle with me

Dave The Sparky · « **Reply #24 on:** June 16, 2012, 07:55:21 PM »

Isnt the saginaw box a standard one like is fitted to every Jeep and Chevy since the dawn of time?

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