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flat towing a cherry
« on: August 24, 2006, 09:59:42 PM »

any tips on the procedure for flat towing a 4 litre auto cherry??
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Tank

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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2006, 10:11:07 PM »

I may be mistaken,but i believe you put the gearbox in park and the transfer case in neutral mate,with the key in the off position to remove steering lock
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2006, 10:18:57 PM »

Sounds about right.  

It'll say in the manual, you must have at least one knocking around somewhere KD! :D
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2006, 10:20:33 PM »

Chris,where do you think i got mine from.... :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2006, 10:21:43 PM »

:lol:
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2006, 10:49:33 AM »

I seem to remember a discussion about this on JeepClub.  From what I remember, flat-towing a 4.0 with Selec-Trac is not recommended.

Addition - Here you go http://http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/topic.cfm?ID=4170 - the thread was about flat towing a YJ, but Stu Gepp made reference about how to tow an XJ.  I'd trust Stu's opinion - he knows XJs inside out.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2006, 11:56:42 AM »

Was it not something to do with the oil pump... if it's in neutral, then it's moving no oil about or something like that???? Only vaguely remember something about it...
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2006, 01:02:00 PM »

the "handbook" gives the same as Mick has already said but also gives a generic headshake at flat-towing 4x4's .................so none the wiser there!

I had a look at what Stu said on JC & his advice would be to use a dolly & lift the front........
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2006, 01:39:20 PM »

Drop the props. You can tow it all ya like then.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2006, 02:42:02 PM »

Quote from: "EvilEd"
Was it not something to do with the oil pump... if it's in neutral, then it's moving no oil about or something like that???? Only vaguely remember something about it...


That sounds right Ed.  I'll drop Stu an email (assuming he's there) and see if I can get an answer.
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2006, 03:52:32 PM »

It definately tells you not to disconnect the props because of the loss of fluid
Manual says selec-trac with ignition key available

"Turn ignition key to OFF position to unlock steering column and gear shift selector linkage.Shift transmission to P (Park) and transfer case to N (Neutral)"

Command Trac has the same procedure listed.

It advises using a dolly or trailer to prevent further damage but i think its mainly to breaking down.If you know the vehicle is okay then as long as you arent towing for miles and miles then i think it will be okay.I towed my XJ from Birmingham to Coalville when i had sold it,with no problems,and thats about 40 mile
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2006, 04:04:04 PM »

They flat tow their Jeeps for thousands of miles behind big RVs in the 'states with no problems.
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 05:14:12 PM »

if you're really worried, drop the props at the axle end & tie them up  :wink:
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2006, 06:30:19 PM »

While waiting for Stu's feedback, I thought I'd have a look in Trish's XJ Manual - not much help!  

Under 'Towing a disabled vehicle' it says to put T/C into Neutral, transmission into Park, and tow with the front wheels lifted.  Under 'Recreational Towing' it gives the same T/C & transmission settings, but says that lifting the front or rear wheels when towing can cause serious damage.  So the instructions contradict each other.  :smt102
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2006, 06:35:18 PM »

sorry kd not got a clue.but to be sure drop the props.
also any news on that track bar for a 2.5 td xj.
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2006, 07:52:46 PM »

It was too much to type, so here's the relevant pages on towing from a 95 manual. It's not contradictory, you just need to read it carefully. And don't take no props off!!!!



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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2006, 08:00:58 PM »

Nice one Tim,i tried to scan it earlier but couldnt read it afterwards so just wrote out the main bit :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2006, 08:20:15 PM »

Cheers for that.  Its a lot more comprehensive than Trish's '97 manual.  I'll print if off in place of my TJs missing instructions.
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2006, 08:49:53 PM »

cool, looks like my assumptions were right then......cheers Tim 8)

i have 2 XJ manuals here & neither of em have those pages...... :?
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2006, 09:28:27 PM »

just as i thaught
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2006, 09:30:33 PM »

Quote from: "V8 Bubba"
just as i thaught


no harm in checking tho.....one for Birtys reference library!
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2006, 09:33:01 PM »

Why do you need to know KD... :D
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2006, 09:37:09 PM »

implementing a fleet enlargement program! :wink:
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2006, 09:47:22 PM »

:D  :D
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2006, 10:17:34 PM »

Heard back from Stu.  His understanding is that on the 242 T?C the Neautral setting is not truly neutral, and there is still some drag between the shafts.

I've spent some time Googling too, and found lots of examples of serious damage done to Jeeps and other vehicles by flat towing - particularly autos.  This http://http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022110 gives a summary.
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