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[rowleav]

Hi, I have a 2002 4.7L  model.
Only had it a few days and went to Jeep main dealer to buy oils.
They told me that although the car has only done 35,500 miles, the servicing schedule is done by months and so is now due its 90,000 mile service.

Fact is, this car has been standing for a long time and in some years only did 7,500 miles.
It has been serviced by its due mileages, but is what jeep are telling me true?
Does it go by age and not mileage?
Surely this would mean that even if the car didn't move off the drive for 6 months it would have to have an oil change again to maintain a 'proper' Jeep service history.

Anyone have any experience with this?

[Bishops Finger]

Sounds complete bollocks to me and I've been known to use a dealer....

[scrw]

I think all schedules on modern cars are by months or milage whichever comes around soonest

Is it needed, not really, but will be required for its warranty (if it still has one)

[Mike Pavelin]

All manufacturers reccomend X number of miles or X months, whichever comes around first. On your Jeep it will be 7500 miles or 6 months.

[Bishops Finger]

Said I knew feck all....

[rowleav]

OK, thank you all again.

Just been quoted £400+ for the 90,000 mile servise on a 35,300 mile car!
Seems so unfair!  Poor me
Just as a side note, get this.......

I asked my local Jeep dealer and I'll name and shame here.....

Ryfield Jeep in Rednal Birmingham

I asked them what they would charge me to do the axle oil change and transfer box oil change (with the oil I had purchased from them) whilst it would be in for the 90,000 service.
The service manager said it would be just an hours labour at £89 + VAT!!
Over £100 per hour! I thought only Solicitors charged that!!!

Robin getts was the name I suggested the service manager should adopt.

[MOCAJ]

have a go and do it yourself  

[Bubba]

its a sad thing but yes the motor trade is feck dear

[Mike Pavelin]

The axle oil and transfer box oils are changed as part of the 90K service anyway.

[BK]

OK, thank you all again.

Just been quoted £400+ for the 90,000 mile servise on a 35,300 mile car!
Seems so unfair!  Poor me :shock:

[Bishops Finger]

My local dealer...now Jeep specialist charge similar and  never changed the fluids requested on last service........bunch of idiots ..if only I knew what to do

[Nosebolt]

..if only I knew what to do

For the price of the service mentioned above you could buy a small car, tool kit and a Haynes manual. Believe me a bit of practice on a car you don’t give a shit about is a great way to learn, and the new Haynes rate most jobs, novice to pro. Even if you just get and READ the manual you will be surprised how much you will feel comfortable trying out on your wagon.

I’ve not had any real training but was lucky enough to have a dad with a sense of humor, he bought a Triumph Herold, tool kit and manual, dismantled the car, and left it in the garage. For my fifteenth birthday he gave me the keys to the garage and a card that said “put it back together and you can keep it”

[Bishops Finger]

Got to say even tho they are less than perfect Haynes manuals have saved me £'s over the years...

[rowleav]

I have all the oils and axle stands and trolley jack and spanners and oil collection vessel and fully intend to tell Jeep to mount their mothers.
I have a printout of the 90k service they intend(ed) to do and it does not list the axle oil changes. It does show transfer box oil change though.
I called them to clarify and rather abruptly was told that if it's not on the printout it's not going to be done without additional costs.

This leads me smartly round to the NEXT question or maybe two.......

1) They have given me one bottle of friction modifier for each axle.
The bottle says to use 2-5% of volume by weight. They reckon the whole bottle goes in.
Anyone advise if they know what they're talking about?
Don't assume they do as when I asked if the transfer box needed friction modifier, nobody knew. The service manager asked a 'technician' he didn't know, so he aksed me to hold (open line) and I could hear him ask the 'senior technician'. There was a good old argument going on and eventually he had to tell me he'd call me back as there was a difference of opinion!!! (Harrrrr harrrrrr.......)
Eventually, after phoning another Jeep dealer, they said that only the axles need the modifier.

2) Next problem I have is an extremely leaky power steering pump.
The fluid appears to be coming from the high pressure outlet. It is tight but very leaky. I have ordered two  'O' rings (Jeep bods tell me there are two) and again will do this myself.
Anyone had experience with this job? Any warnings?

Thanks again guys, you are all fit to be presidents.

[rowleav]

Ahhhhh... in addition......

They sold me the wrong oil.
They gave me 74-140 for the rear axle with the small bottle of friction modifier and 70-90 for the front axle with no modifier.
After getting home and reading the manual again, it said that Quadradrives have to have the 75-140 and modifier in both axles. So, I called them and they wouldn't believe me!!!
I have to speak to the service manager to get him to kick Mr. Parts arse and nuts and face and other meaningless extremities until he agreed to charge me an additional £9 per bottle to change it and an additional (whatever it was) for the additional modifier.

Oh, rest assured they know their stuff!!

[Mike Pavelin]

The transfer case has special NV 247 transfer case oil, which you should have got from the dealer. No additive required. The axles both require a bottler of friction modifier if you have Quadradrive.

[rowleav]

Oh boy, do YOU know your stuff!!

Thanks Mike

[rowleav]

All done and sorted and again, than ks to everyone.
I did enjoy the job. It's neen 10 years since I got oil all over me, but it won't be from now on.
Found a full Jeep workshop manaual on the net and downloaded it.
Tells you everything in its 2000+ pages!!!

Best to all.

Andy

[isle of man]

count your self lucky i have just had my beloved ducati serviced not used for two years due to work commitments - so not turned a wheel bought new by me in 2002 been to the dutch tt 3 years so done 3,500 miles...so how much for the service?









































£687.00gbp!!!!!!!

[Dave69]

dont worry about the price a work collegue bought a 748 ducati rode it for under one year took it to the dealer for a mjor service which involved the timing belts to be changed and then was given a bill for £850.00 including vat. he sold the bike two months later

[MOCAJ]

Jeeps are quite cheap then  

[rowleav]

I had NO idea Dukes were so expensive to service!
I had a Jixxer 750 and did it all myself.
Have the Dukes become better on the reliability these days?
I know they used to have a bad name...... almost as bad a name as the cherry's!!!

[Dave69]

the major service on a duke is the timing belt change which IIRC needs to be done at regular intervals i.e. once a year of x amount of miles

[scrw]

Desmo heads = excuse to charge big £

[isle of man]

the belts are every two years.......apparently when they took the belts off they had formed the same shape from two years ago - that is they have not moved .......it's a pain when you just don't have the time to use something.