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[Mud Plugger]

Hello

My name is Jonathan - this is my first post here. I have not yet got a Jeep, but hopefully will very very soon. Every time I have got close to owning one, some type of 'domestic disaster' happens, and any thoughts have to be put on hold!

Anyway, my question is this. On a Wrangler TJ (2001 model), are the seat belt buckles (female) bolted to:-

a) The seat cushion itself
b) The seat frame beneath the seat
c) The floor
d) The centre console thingy

I ask because of future seat removal & compatibility with aftermarket seats.

Thanks very much for your help. Great site!

Jonathan

[scrw]

IIRC its the seat frame

[Mud Plugger]

Thanks. Does that mean the seat can be unbolted from the frame leaving both the frame & the buckle in place in the vehicle?

[scrw]

no, certainly not with a cherokee anyway, most of the frame is integral to the seat, if you are going aftermarket seats expect to have to build up a seat frame

[tim_aka_tim]

On a side note, as you're not an owner yet, consider also that any Wrangler registered after March '01 is subject to high rates of car tax, whereas one registered before that has the old pre-CO2 rate.

[Mike Pavelin]

I'm pretty sure the elts bolt to the transmission tunnel in a TJ. The seat can be seperated from the base with the fore and aft adjustment mechanism. I did this in my XJ, fitting an aftermarket seat to the factory base.

[Jonny Jeep]

I've just had my seats out to fit seat heater elements. The seat belt latch is mounted to the rear of the fold and tumble seat frame. The sliders bolt to that frame too. If you get new seats you may be able to fit them to the frame by using the jeep sliders on the new seats or the new seats sliders on the jeep frame.

This write up for seat heaters shows the seat belt latch unbolted from the frame in one of the pictures. It's done on a 2001 model...

http://http://ewylie.com/jeep/seatheat.htm

edit: just dug through my internet history to find this jeepforum link. Grand Cherokee seats in a TJ...

http://http://jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=616753

[Mud Plugger]

Thanks guys, this looks really encouraging - very useful. Sounds like I will be bolting the new seats to the existing frame then.

tim_aka_tim - I am in a dilemma about the CO2 & tax issue - as I was looking at a late 2001 minter with really low miles. It falls into the later tax, but it is a really fine example. I suppose it depends how much the tax may rise.

[tim_aka_tim]

The 4.0 Manual Wrangler emits 312g/km of CO2. The 2008-9 tax disc costs 210 as it's in band F.

In 2009, the tax bands change from the current 7, to 13 bands, A - M.
The Wrangler falls into band M, so that means 440 a year in 2009-10 and 455 a year in 2010-11. Bummer.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/C ... 41183.html

It's crazy. My 2.3 (petrol) turbo Mazda CX-7 costs me 60 dollars a year to tax here in Texas. The same vehicle in the UK will cost 415 pounds next year to tax. There is no graduated tax here. Smart car or Dodge viper - 60 bucks.

Pollution? Bollocks to that, we're all under the same sky, breathing the same air.

[greggmo]

next time you go for an MOT ask if you can blow in the meter they stick in the exhaust....it will go off the scale. i shit you not. people are the problem not cars. the earth is moving away from the sun so earth is fucked anyway so i dont see what all the fuss is about. fuck co2, fuck global warming, fuck fuck, fuck this i am off to bed

[Manda]

Hi Mud Plugger, just a cautionary note re aftermarket seats in TJs, they don't all fit! There's not a great deal of space because of where the roll cage is positioned. I'd advise actually finding seats and physically fitting them before ordering any.