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Recovery Points
« on: April 23, 2009, 07:58:58 PM »

Lost count now of how many times I have been told I need front and rear recovery points (other than a tow bar), so I have a couple of questions: Firstly, 1 or 2 on each end? Secondly, found a couple of recovery points on interwebby, and one is significantly cheaper (but is 'less' of a product), so the question is it a false economy to go for the cheapest? They do offer a 'money back guarentee' but that aint a lot of good if im stuck somewhere.

Here are the two im considering:

http://tarantula4x4.co.uk/index.php?mai ... ucts_id=17

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http://www.famousfour.co.uk/foursport/shackle.php

Cheers gents (or gentessess)
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 08:08:12 PM »

Famousfour head and shoulders above the other one
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 08:39:32 PM »

cheers Roland, sorta :cry: had a feelin that would be the answer, more £'s then!

How many, just one on the front centre, or one each corner? And the rear (cant go centre coz of tow bar, which i need)?

and, if i really cant go the tarantula 4x4 route, is this one better, worse or same than famousfour:

http://www.forgetec4x4.co.uk/
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 08:47:27 PM »

my main recovery points are the brewers arms and Mcdonalds.
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 08:48:44 PM »

I’d go for the second style. You can also get just the swivel part and then just drill a 35mm hole onto your bumper and the job is done!



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Recovery-swivel-e ... 240%3A1318
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 09:05:10 PM »

You could also just weld some luggs onto the bumper similar to these.

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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 09:56:15 PM »

Let me take a wild guess.

Weld on gate hinges from Telford Farm Machinery on the rabbit run?

About £3 each.

My "A" frame hinges on 6 of 'em plus two tractor implement pins.

Never had any issues with the strength of it, even when I had a low speed jacknife :shock:
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2009, 11:02:33 PM »

BD, what are you going to fit them to? Have you upgraded the bumpers yet?

no matter how good a recovery point you buy, it's only as strong as what you bolt it to.
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2009, 07:49:57 AM »

get a front recovery point, by all means
but, whats wrong with the tow bar as a recovery point?
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 12:44:07 PM »

Departure angle...
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2009, 01:11:04 PM »

Quote from: "daggie"
get a front recovery point, by all means
but, whats wrong with the tow bar as a recovery point?

It's only rated at 3.5 tonne, put a kinetic on that with 10mph pull before the snatch and your in ripping the tow bar off territory.

Dont use a bumper for recovery, weld a plate off the chassis rails, have one at each side and use a bridle.

Rember, once you've killed someone it's really difficult to appologise about the 25kg metal weight flying through the air.
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2009, 02:25:15 PM »

Ok, cheers for all that, so it looks like I need two on the front, two on the back, all of which needs to be attached to a plate that is welded to the chasis rails  :evil: !!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2009, 04:40:13 PM »

Quote from: "Bulldog67"
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that it doesnt matter what job you do on a jeep, it is never, and i really mean never, simple and straight forward :evil: !!!!!!!!!!

like most things m8, looks easy when you dont see the prep, but any job stands on its foundations, get the prep right and it will stand the test of time (and use)
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2009, 06:22:30 PM »

Quote from: "dxmedia"
Quote from: "daggie"
get a front recovery point, by all means
but, whats wrong with the tow bar as a recovery point?

It's only rated at 3.5 tonne, put a kinetic on that with 10mph pull before the snatch and your in ripping the tow bar off territory.

Dont use a bumper for recovery, weld a plate off the chassis rails, have one at each side and use a bridle.

Rember, once you've killed someone it's really difficult to appologise about the 25kg metal weight flying through the air.

I've seen this happen (not the killing someone, but the torn off bumper flying through the air at head height :mrgreen:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/12007_02.htm
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2009, 06:55:30 PM »

I would never use a kinetic as tragic points out, I've seen the army use them  :mrgreen:

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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2009, 07:34:24 PM »

stay clear of kinetic ropes  :wink:
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2009, 09:09:05 PM »

if you have or use a kinetic rope i will send the giant smurf round with trafic cone he will then force it up ya ass till you be dead :butthead:
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2009, 09:15:10 PM »

Kinetics are muppet stuff...avoid...
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2009, 11:24:14 PM »

set of heavy duty bumpers with recovery points = £200 if ya can get em cheaper i suggest you do so.
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 11:48:43 PM »

I prefer to use a kinetic rope to a normal rope - not with a run up, it takes a lot of the snatch out of it when you are pulling, compared to a strap :wink:
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2009, 07:39:39 AM »

chain is king
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2009, 11:01:21 AM »

Right, so, for immediate purposes im gonna order one off famousfour on the basis of summink is better than nuffink (which it prob aint!) and stick it in the middle at the front.

Next im gonna avoid kinectic at all costs so therefore i need to find somewhere cheap that flogs decent size chain (any steers on where and what size?).

Do i take it the good old tow rope isnt up the job?

Followin from that, in the summer when i go and collect my parts from the Bubba Jeep Emporium, i build in time to go visit Greggmo for heavy duty bumpers and other parts that the good fella is gonna do for me - all easy, excellent help doods, thanks very much.
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2009, 11:17:02 AM »

Do Not use Kinetic, end of story. Its feckin lethal  :wink:

http://http://www.damarwebbingproducts.com/Offroad%20towing%20recovery%20straps.html

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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2009, 11:23:59 AM »

Try First4 off road for further thoughts

http://www.firstfour.co.uk/contact-us-2014.html
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Re: Recovery Points
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2009, 11:34:07 AM »

i like and have fited the hooks that bolt on the chasis rail propper old school jobs
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