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[Dave69]

My tester mate has failed them on pattern as they do not create the correct pattern in a halogen light housing, all reto fitted HIDs he has tested so far failed the pattern test

take bulbs out fit noraml bulbs, pass mot then refit the HID bulbs

[scrw]

yeah but you would give an insurance company a great excuse to get out of a claim tho

[scrw]

Yep, but get pulled by the fuzz and you will get a ticket for it

Isn't that police brutality?

LOL, sexual abuse

[Dave69]

yeah but you would give an insurance company a great excuse to get out of a claim tho

i bet if you rang the insurer they wouldn't increase the premium as it doesn't affect the vehicle in regards to power output or structual.

no insurance hike for lifted jeep and larger wheels from AF so i realy doubt they would increase it for some light bulbs. As for the police not liking them, again it is down to individual opinions, most will not even bother unless directed by the senior officer which again it is not in the public interest like most number plates fitted to vehicles with wrong sizes and fonts

[scrw]

Yes but you have an unlisted mod, which they will use to weasle out of a cliam, seen it done. Fine if you list the mod (although saying you have none legal lighting will get you laughed at), but if you have unlisted mods and have a prang you are asking for trouble

[Nosebolt]

Surly a legal compatible part does not qualify as a mod, if it did then fitting a different brand of tyres, pattern engine service parts or even seat covers would nullify your insurance, I know I’m pushing an argument to its absurd extreme, but we are talking about light bulb FFS

[Panic mechanic!]

Surly a legal compatible part does not qualify as a mod, if it did then fitting a different brand of tyres, pattern engine service parts or even seat covers would nullify your insurance, I know I’m pushing an argument to its absurd extreme, but we are talking about light bulb FFS

for arguments sake  and small minded pettyness the parts you are talking about there Nosebolt are manufactured to original specifications even as pattern parts,so can be fitted, the headlamps are slightly different because they should  be stamped with the correct bulb to be fitted, any other type of bulb fitted voids their legality patternwise.

there is a simple answer tho, if you have an accident kick your headlamps in so they can't tell!

[Jeepthang]

.....and all I wanted was an upgraded bulb!!   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  

[Panic mechanic!]

shush, your interupting the arguments lol, you've got your bulb help now leave us to fight it out! lol :-D  

[Mike Pavelin]

BTW, talking of MoTs, they have just reinstated the full checks on number plates so if you're going for a test and you have iffy 'plates, take them off and put proper ones on as testers will be being extra vigilant at the moment so as not to be caught out by VOSA.

[tree man]

I can't add to the in depth vehicle construction & use and MoT regulations discussion   but I improved the lights on my XJ by replacing the units.  When I removed the old ones and had a good look I was suprised at how much of the reflective coating was yellowing/rusting giving the units the refective capability of soil. Need to hunt around as most of the light units I've seen to be on the way out.

[Dave69]

BTW, talking of MoTs, they have just reinstated the full checks on number plates so if you're going for a test and you have iffy 'plates, take them off and put proper ones on as testers will be being extra vigilant at the moment so as not to be caught out by VOSA.

number plates have always been an issue especially with the police as the ANPR cameras can only read std fonts and std size plates. anything smaller and they cant read it clearly so the number isn't logged.

common sense comes into play with changes to a vehicle and whether you inform the ins. company. back to the light issue if you had a crash in the daytime then there would be no reason for the insurance company to wangle out of the deal. At nightime there might be a reason (for a small company) but i'd be surprised if they did.


watch the light switch on an xj as it will overheat and be tempermental with high output bulbs

[Jeepthang]

BTW, talking of MoTs, they have just reinstated the full checks on number plates so if you're going for a test and you have iffy 'plates, take them off and put proper ones on as testers will be being extra vigilant at the moment so as not to be caught out by VOSA.

MY MOT guy said to me to just get some correctly spaced plates made up and stick them over the "incorrectly" spaced plates on the XJ just for the MOT. Easily removed when you pass.

[chrisjones]

I can't see the problem with a set (or two) of KCs (and they were a darn sight cheaper than a HID kit last time I looked)