Topic: Mercedes transplant (Read 4757 times)

wildwood · « **on:** January 11, 2015, 10:45:44 AM »

mercedesdiesel4x4.com
Whilst buried in some section of Pirate Hardcore last night I came across these guys..... Then I had to find out more
The MB OM617 is apparently the longest lasting of the diesel variants regularly achieving 500,000 miles.
For us that means mid 80's estates with the 2.9 5 cylinder turbo. Seems these guys in the USA of A are sticking them in fatties wranglers and FSJs
Monster diesel in a flattie.....oh yes
Can't see it in anFSJ though

wildwood · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2015, 10:46:31 AM »

Quote from: wildwood on January 11, 2015, 10:45:44 AM

mercedesdiesel4x4.com
Whilst buried in some section of Pirate Hardcore last night I came across these guys..... Then I had to find out more
The MB OM617 is apparently the longest lasting of the diesel variants regularly achieving 500,000 miles.
For us that means mid 80's estates with the 2.9 5 cylinder turbo. Seems these guys in the USA of A are sticking them in flatties wranglers and FSJs
Monster diesel in a flattie.....oh yes
Can't see it in anFSJ though

isle of man · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2015, 10:55:30 AM »

The 210 had a turbo diesel with little electrics, this is now the engine of choice - many are dropping them in the 460 and such, and yes 500k is possible.

francisolya · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:07:09 AM »

I've a bit of experience with Merc diesels and currently helping fit one in a car,I reckon the 606 is the best diesel motor merc have produced ,this one is running stand alone ecu conversion..have vids on phone but can't load here...

wildwood · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:17:29 AM »

I can remember them in those quality times of MB engineering when Mercs were F for expensive,
In the mid 80's......

Were these engines built into the 90's

Otherwise it's going to be 30 years old

isle of man · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:21:06 AM »

Quote from: francisolya on January 11, 2015, 11:07:09 AM

I've a bit of experience with Merc diesels and currently helping fit one in a car,I reckon the 606 is the best diesel motor merc have produced ,this one is running stand alone ecu conversion..have vids on phone but can't load here...

651 is the engine of choice these days, it's in everything from the A-Class (170) to the S-Class (222)

isle of man · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:23:45 AM »

Quote from: wildwood on January 11, 2015, 11:17:29 AM

I can remember them in those quality times of MB engineering when Mercs were F for expensive,
In the mid 80's......

Were these engines built into the 90's Otherwise it's going to be 30 years old

CLICKY

francisolya · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:24:25 AM »

This motor is a 99 with 24V 170 ish HP and electronic controlled P series Bosch inline fuel pump,like Isle of Man said they are relatively simple,the main problem is that they were never released with a manual box,auto only,none of the manuals were deemed up to it (although my friend has fitted a 6 speed merc )the 210 auto is very complex and almost impossible to retro fit..we had to machine a sprinter single mass flywheel and fitted plus sprint clutch

wildwood · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:29:33 AM »

Nice one IOM.
I remember the 6 cyl variant....... Remember being 5 up in a cab from the airport in Berlin and the driver holding it at over 100mph no probs.......

But a 6 cylinder in a flattie....... Might need a nose stretch

francisolya · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:32:23 AM »

Quote from: isle of man on January 11, 2015, 11:21:06 AM

Quote from: francisolya on January 11, 2015, 11:07:09 AM
I've a bit of experience with Merc diesels and currently helping fit one in a car,I reckon the 606 is the best diesel motor merc have produced ,this one is running stand alone ecu conversion..have vids on phone but can't load here...

651 is the engine of choice these days, it's in everything from the A-Class (170) to the S-Class (222)

not the engine of transplanters choice though ??merc made some rubbish after the 606,no experience of this motor in your pic but the previous common rail was not great at all

isle of man · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:38:40 AM »

Quote from: francisolya on January 11, 2015, 11:32:23 AM

Quote from: isle of man on January 11, 2015, 11:21:06 AM
Quote from: francisolya on January 11, 2015, 11:07:09 AM
I've a bit of experience with Merc diesels and currently helping fit one in a car,I reckon the 606 is the best diesel motor merc have produced ,this one is running stand alone ecu conversion..have vids on phone but can't load here...

651 is the engine of choice these days, it's in everything from the A-Class (170) to the S-Class (222)
not the engine of transplanters choice though ??merc made some rubbish after the 606,no experience of this motor in your pic but the previous common rail was not great at all

As said, 651 is todays engine and current Euro6 compliant......The 606 is for transplanters and 15 years old thus not strangled by the current emission directive from Euroland.

bigjeepzj · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2015, 02:04:19 PM »

so you can get 500 hp if you stick a dodge ram / Cummings turbo on one

wildwood · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2015, 02:23:05 PM »

You've distracted me now.....lol

Cummins seem to be the daddy stateside......compound turbos and hellooooo 1000hp and not much less torque.......

isle of man · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2015, 03:41:23 PM »

HP is for screaming eagles, torque is where it's at !!!!

Dave69 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2015, 05:33:50 PM »

as they say HP determines how fast you hit the wall

torque determines how far you take the wall with you

Bubba · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2015, 06:05:58 PM »

i know its ancient but in the day i was a big fan of the perkins 6354

isle of man · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2015, 06:23:17 PM »

Quote from: v8 bubba on January 11, 2015, 06:05:58 PM

i know its ancient but in the day i was a big fan of the perkins 6354

Ahhhh the six - the four was WANK!!!

georgen · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2015, 04:51:31 AM »

Read the merc thing yesterday, then found a guy who put a Vag 1.9tdi unit in and working on a Vag 2.0tdi unit one as well. Now I have to ask the question anyone ever fitted a 200 tdi unit to a Jeep. Ill hide behind this wall for a while

isle of man · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2015, 07:59:02 AM »

Quote from: georgen on January 12, 2015, 04:51:31 AM

Read the merc thing yesterday, then found a guy who put a Vag 1.9tdi unit in and working on a Vag 2.0tdi unit one as well. Now I have to ask the question anyone ever fitted a 200 tdi unit to a Jeep. Ill hide behind this wall for a while

You can buy a kit in America to fit the VAG diesel unit into a Jeep, I can't recall the name of the company right now.

georgen · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2015, 09:46:45 AM »

Quote from: isle of man on January 12, 2015, 07:59:02 AM

Quote from: georgen on January 12, 2015, 04:51:31 AM
Read the merc thing yesterday, then found a guy who put a Vag 1.9tdi unit in and working on a Vag 2.0tdi unit one as well. Now I have to ask the question anyone ever fitted a 200 tdi unit to a Jeep. Ill hide behind this wall for a while

You can buy a kit in America to fit the VAG diesel unit into a Jeep, I can't recall the name of the company right now.

Its prob the same bloke, I didn't look at the date lol. But a 200tdi out of a "cough" LR is a simple engine and plentiful.

Jonny Jeep · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2015, 10:53:23 AM »

The VW TDI to Jeep conversion is from Coty Built an HPA Motorsports division...

http://www.cotybuilt.com/

Dave69 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2015, 10:02:20 PM »

i read years back that someone did a conversion for the old vw td5 lump for the cherokee

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