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Title: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: j33pky on May 17, 2010, 06:16:57 PM
hi will a 4.0 litre out of a cherokee bolt to a 79 th400 from a full size cherry (a 4.2 does!!!!) any body know?????  or am i crazy??? dont answer that mr isle of manky..... hopefully bubba is still talking to me after my last bonnet comments!!!!!! i may have to bribe him with a pasty or a bag of scratchings
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Alucardtnuoc on May 17, 2010, 06:31:25 PM
I have been wondering the same.... Bolt patterns look spot on, just not actually got round to checking.
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Panic mechanic! on May 17, 2010, 06:42:23 PM
yup they will bolt up. but I am not sure if you need to cut a hole in the bellhousing to allow for the cps  from the cherry.
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: isle of man on May 17, 2010, 07:53:17 PM
Hmm - I'm not so sure - time to google!!
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: tim_aka_tim on May 17, 2010, 08:07:52 PM
Had a google, and so long as it's a Jeep sourced TH400, it will, but as Rob says, the CPS
will need relocating. Novak say it's a 1/2" hole needs to be drilled in the belhousing.
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: j33pky on May 17, 2010, 08:10:12 PM
cool... thanks guys il have a look on the novac site.......
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Panic mechanic! on May 17, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
novak do a cps relocation kit but for all the cost and trouble its a lot easier to drill a hole  and enlarge it to the correct shape to fit the cherry cps. make sure you use the cherry starter ring as well.
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: isle of man on May 17, 2010, 08:31:44 PM
Strum strum.....
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Bubba on May 17, 2010, 08:32:09 PM
yes can be made to work i think the 4.0 has two extra holes but i dont think its a problem yup cps hole is needed i think advance adaptors can help
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: j33pky on May 18, 2010, 07:47:21 AM
cool sounds like it can be done IL have a look on advance adapters site thanks birtys....................and bubba IL make up with you by buying you a  :icon_jook: when i next see you
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Bubba on May 18, 2010, 04:43:13 PM
no probs only fun dood thought you ran a v8
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: j33pky on May 18, 2010, 05:20:30 PM
hi bubba ...yea got a 360 in my cj5.. got a 360 with th400 and quadratrac for the offroader im building...just thought the 4.0ltr would be better for offroading as even the mighty holly truck avenger i have in my 5 doesn't like too steep a angle.  still you cant beat the sound of a nice 360.  just got a 7 with a rotten tub but got a lot of spares from it, a 85 lhd 304 auto with a 300 trans case, the engine needs striping as its been stood for about 7 year but its got a 4 barrel edelbrock intake and carb fitted (have i read somewhere that you have to upgrade the cam on the 304 to take the upgraded 4 barrel carb ect? or have i dreamt that?) so i will probably get rid of some stuff when i decide what I'm going to do but don't worry il put it on birtys first...wont be for a while anyway...
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Dave The Sparky on May 18, 2010, 09:20:58 PM
woah there that 300 transfer case has my name on it and as for steep angle problems you know what to do.............................
But im afraid it involves installing a lovely diesel engine as they dont have fuel starvation problems.





ill get my coat

p.s J33pky there appears to be an emoticon for our lass  :078: The winter stomach bug time clock is still ticking theres only me to go  :icon_sad:
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Bubba on May 18, 2010, 09:38:47 PM
you can up the cam or jet acordingly i like the edelbrock carbs very toonable i like 304s nice litle lumps  did you buy the mad spring over thing that was on da bay it was up by you guys and that i think had a 304
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Bubba on May 18, 2010, 09:43:11 PM
if i had the cash i would go injection on the 360
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Dave The Sparky on May 18, 2010, 10:11:24 PM
You sussed us out Bubba the guy sold it to a man from Holland and the buyer came all the way from the Netherlands with his trailer to take it away and on arrival asked where the log book was?
As no log book was forthcoming he got back in his car and went all the way back to Holland wasnt interested in the Jeep just the log book. :tool:

Still not sure what the guy selling it intended on making though but hiding underneath all that hideousness were the remnants of a CJ7 with a 304.
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Bubba on May 18, 2010, 10:20:22 PM
thort so it looked worth  buying to normalise it or part it out good luck with it you pair are gonna be way busy
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Dave The Sparky on May 18, 2010, 10:28:22 PM
i know will have to stop buying Jeeps and Jeep related paraphernalia, its a nightmare cant move for crap that may never be used  :jpshakehead: 
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: j33pky on May 19, 2010, 07:47:21 AM
i know will have to stop buying Jeeps and Jeep related paraphernalia, its a nightmare cant move for crap that may never be used  :jpshakehead:  

your not talking about that diesel powered cj6 are you dave?
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Bubba on May 19, 2010, 10:49:46 AM
i have to admit i have to fight the urge to diesel in my daily cj
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 19, 2010, 07:29:31 PM
i know will have to stop buying Jeeps and Jeep related paraphernalia, its a nightmare cant move for crap that may never be used  :jpshakehead: 

Dave, ya cant stop that sorta addiction mate, so dont bother  :003:

even when it gets too much u can justy ebay it and make a another jeep parts hoarder v happy, it vicarious purchasin  :hysterical:
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Dave The Sparky on May 19, 2010, 10:31:11 PM
i know will have to stop buying Jeeps and Jeep related paraphernalia, its a nightmare cant move for crap that may never be used  :jpshakehead:  

your not talking about that diesel powered cj6 are you dave?

Hey monkey features my diesel powered cj6 is both taxed and tested which is more than can be said for your "garaged" vehicle. How many miles has yours done so far this year??? about 0.0001 i think.
Yours must be the most economical vehicle on this forum judging by how much petrol its used so far this year.
Poor thing wont know whats hit it when its getting abused at Kirton next weekend but must admit it will be nice to see it out and about again that Bronco was just a waste of time.(mainly mine wiring the pigging thing :hysterical:)
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: normalbloke on May 20, 2010, 08:12:05 AM
if i had the cash i would go injection on the 360

I can vouch for that,hot,cold or any angle, first turn of the key,every time.
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 20, 2010, 08:25:37 AM
 :icon_rolleyes: :jpshakehead: more ideas for me waste my life on
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: j33pky on May 20, 2010, 05:56:11 PM



Hey monkey features my diesel powered cj6 is both taxed and tested which is more than can be said for your "garaged" vehicle. How many miles has yours done so far this year??? about 0.0001 i think.
Yours must be the most economical vehicle on this forum judging by how much petrol its used so far this year.
Poor thing wont know whats hit it when its getting abused at Kirton next weekend but must admit it will be nice to see it out and about again that Bronco was just a waste of time.(mainly mine wiring the pigging thing :hysterical:)

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hey Dave the cross dressing sparky......who do you think you are talking too? the next time i see you your going to get a slap!! :violence:
didn't you go on a bender like this with bridgefield 4x4 on the jeepey forum? yes i did own a ford bronco..and yes you did wire it for me..and because i used my bronco i didn't get to use my cj much, but its no reason the get bitchy! and i probally used more fuel in my cj than you used and i haven't been anywhere........ :wsmile:

have you noticed that if you spell check bridgefield with birtys spell checker it comes up as brownfield :017:
anyway see you at the workshop tonight
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Dave The Sparky on May 20, 2010, 10:56:49 PM
Look ape face i think you will find it was Shane who started that argument and if i could get on the Jeepey forum without risking getting a virus again i would find the very article you are talking about.
That Jeepey forum was never the same without us taking the piss out of each other :jpshakehead:

Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: Mike Pavelin on May 22, 2010, 07:44:48 AM
hi will a 4.0 litre out of a cherokee bolt to a 79 th400 from a full size cherry (a 4.2 does!!!!) any body know?????  or am i crazy??? dont answer that mr isle of manky..... hopefully bubba is still talking to me after my last bonnet comments!!!!!! i may have to bribe him with a pasty or a bag of scratchings

Why not just use the AW4 that comes bolted to the 4.0?
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: j33pky on May 22, 2010, 08:45:08 AM
hi mike because I'm using full size axles from a quadratrak Cherokee and the rear diff is to one side.....  Ive got a 7 chassis that I'm stretching to about 104 wheelbase with a cj tub,full cage etc with a amc 360/4.0ltr th400/quadratrak on 37" maxxis creepy crawlers. I'm sick of smashing up my cj5 that i rebuilt about 4 year ago...cost me to much to destroy...
Title: Re: 4.0litre to 79 th400????????
Post by: j33pky on May 22, 2010, 08:50:52 AM
hi dave the homo sparky....

why do you keep saying I'm a ape face?
have you seen your Alex in your pic?  his dad must look like a gibbon (is his real dad will?) stick that in ya pipe
p.s....do you really do rewires in a pair of rubber knickers and a ball gag?