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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: wildwood on July 30, 2010, 03:09:14 PM
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Right then...... As I am going 1 ton axles and big..... (whatever I can afford tyres) but think 38.5 -40 I am going to do the 'Hi fender' trick....Already been done by 'double J' who sent me this thread from 'Pirate".
Looks to be easy....... Specially as the bloke at the bottom of the page (included) has shown where he cut his YJ fenders.....
So..... whaddya think.... Ugly as shite .... 'put down the bong and step away slowly from the keyboard!'....... or not......
I am doing it 'cos its free (ish) and then I can convert to tube fenders when I have more time and the 1 tons underneath........
Examples here http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=538391&page=2 (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=538391&page=2)
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i think the flat fenders look good, go for it
or buy some expensive tube fenders
http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_258 (http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_258)
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I like the fact that if you take your time doing it, it still looks stock. Only where they should have put them in the first place. Tube fenders are great on all accounts, but they do not look stock. Stockish....... yes but still not quite there.
If you want the best example of what it should look like or what your shooting for AEV makes bolt on fenders and hood.
http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/highline/index.php (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/highline/index.php)
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aev-conversions.com%2Fphotos%2Falbums%2FHighline_Body_Kit%2FDSC_3802_d.jpg&hash=4a1c936f939aaf84ce0ad418b8c55451cd1e72f2)
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aev-conversions.com%2Fphotos%2Falbums%2FHighline_Body_Kit%2FDSC_3146_d.jpg&hash=42fb92a94b5e503e0bcb2804c1bd77127a94e503)
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i quite fancy doing that to a tj
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It's AEV so it will be expensive...
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kev, might have a TJ that needs flat fenders soon :icon_winkle:
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Yup AEV are the puppies to copy..... but as ya say for the cost of another TJ :jpshakehead:
Going to go that copycat route tho....
Only thing is with 1 tons I am going to be 4" wider each side than I am now (7" fender flares on now!)
Looks like 'billy bob shade tree fenders' from conveyor belt for the extra then :icon_super:
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Only thing is with 1 tons I am going to be 4" wider each side than I am now (7" fender flares on now!)
Looks like 'billy bob shade tree fenders' from conveyor belt for the extra then :icon_super:
if you are going trailer queen route then why does wider matter mate? and either way i might have a cleaner solution for us both, remind me when you come down to kingcjs, cause i might need help sweet talking him. :icon_super:
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Sounds good.........
I'll also need to sweet talk King CJ outta some 8 lug rims he said he had!! MY 1 tons are coming with the DRW set up so will look stoopid under a Jeep
And Yup gonna be a trailer queen but want to get an MOT on it for some of the sites that only have Road Tax Vehicle stuff on site... That's the plan but then plans always change :icon_twisted:
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Sounds good but the tyres are gonna be the expensive part right?
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Tyres are gonna be crippling even if I get 38.5s x 17x a skinny 11 (boggers) they will still be £350 or sommat like that each and then beadlocks or search for some 8 lug 16s or 16.5s that aren't commercial vehicle skinny.......
Weird thing is the 1 tons are FREE........... :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Well not really .....they are a direct swap for the well spec'd 30 and 44 in mine (don't want to tally the build cost spread over 8 years but it would buy a nice TJ just on the axle spend)
But today got rained off outside working so decided to have a Jeep afternoon starting the Hi-Fender trick......... 2 and half hours in.. and one fender loose.. just gotta take off all the stuff bolted to it and do the biz..... a very long job then ....... (and then I dropped the disc cutter thro an ARB line).........dumb hippie :jpshakehead:
If anyone asks you to do it to their rig............... rub your hands and shake them warmly by the wallet :icon_twisted:
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Hey Jez! Have you been putting "RedBull" in those morning cups of Tea :hysterical:
Got this image off Pirate, i really like this alternative to the standard flat fenders. (Nice looking truck too)
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv11%2FTenbulls%2FBonnet_Wings_TJ.jpg&hash=ebf307ee9853d40273484c05515c876339e0e9ac)
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Yup reckon so.... Intravenous or if spelt wrong 'up the vein' .........the 'red bull' that is.............
Nice one piece hood and fenders there.... sad we can't get them cheap...... Campbell enterprises and a load of others do em.
I'm gonna try to keep the front of the fenders as well so it will look as if they are trying to cover the bottom and sides of the headlights........ but may just get jiggy with the cutting disc in the end :icon_twisted:
Hows the 4 link going?
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yes lots and lots of redbull is a must! but even then ive lost an entire weekend to lack of sleep and screw ups so think hard but always realize sometimes you just gotta dig in and start cutting.
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Yup reckon so.... Intravenous or if spelt wrong 'up the vein' .........the 'red bull' that is.............
Nice one piece hood and fenders
Hows the 4 link going?
Im thinking i may try and talk Clayt into letting me ave a go with his bonnet :003:
4 Link rear is done (just gonna post up some images)
It gonna flex some............... :icon_winkle:
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bushwacker new line in flat fenders albeit for the XJ
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmotionoffroad.com%2Fcatalog%2Fimages%2Fxjbushwackerflatflares.jpg&hash=4cd45da0072deb16a1b38fb11042cc5865015c59)
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bushwacker.com%2Fimages%2Ftrucks%2F10920.jpg&hash=d0496fdb21bd73288b6f5289f6b18ce9c9fd8b94)
(http://)
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they look good
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Yes - lets hope they are flexible and not brittle eh!!!
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Arr..XJ looks good..TJ is giving me ideas..
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makes me think of what would happen if mahindra did a tj, but each to their own lol
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OK 12 hrs in and both sides cobbled together.
Doing it is easy........... not :icon_twisted:
17 year old factory fitted bolts and rust... angle grinder fu... and just having to remove everything thats been put under the hood as an 'extra' over my ownership.....relays, horn, on board air, blah blah ....you get the picture.
It is easy .....just time consuming to do it well and make it look factory and patch up the bits that never fit .... breakin' out the metal glue tomorrow.... :icon_super:
No pics yet cos it just looks like a stipped unloved junker......... There is now room for a couple of 40s under the front .......... just have to deal with the rear now. :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
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If ya needing some conveyor belt Jez? Let me know, im sure i can source you some :icon_winkle:
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Hey Jez! Have you been putting "RedBull" in those morning cups of Tea :hysterical:
Got this image off Pirate, i really like this alternative to the standard flat fenders. (Nice looking truck too)
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv11%2FTenbulls%2FBonnet_Wings_TJ.jpg&hash=ebf307ee9853d40273484c05515c876339e0e9ac)
My observations skills are obviously pants.............. Just noticed this is a TJ on Leaf springs.........nice and clean..........mmmmmnnnn.
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as you can see tj and yj tubs have the exact same mounting points.
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Right then tis sorta done for the moment just to clean up a bit now......
Bugger...... over 30 hrs involved what with spraying inside and underneath with primer and satin black.... and welding front edges to the bits by the lights and making brackets for air compressor and horn and cutting inner fender for battery box clearance ..... and so the time just ...goes.
Here are some pics. of the above.
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What you see is with 35s so I reckon that 42s could fit and look like things were before the 'operation'
Just cant afford 'em at the mo. Reckon 39.5 or 38.5 or round that mark is what I'm shooting for...... unless I get to score a killer deal :icon_super:
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looks real nice m8, my only concern would be the number plate, have you considered an stick on numberplate on the bumper lass likely to snap, don't know if you have a Motorman Store near you but since they made it illeagle to sell stick on plate they have started a nice line of stick on signs that look just like numberplates :eusa_whistle:
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I'll have a look. Front no plate has always ben my 101 .....broke many on the bumper then put one where the winch mount is and , things ran hot cos no grill showing....so this is a drive to the site solution at the mo......... Yup reckon stick on could work :icon_super:
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very cooooool
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Looking very good....
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Front no plate has always ben my 101 ....so this is a drive to the site solution at the mo.........
Velcro is your friend :003:
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:iagree:
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I think it's the Bish who came up with a good solution. Spring tool clips bolted to the back of the plate, clipped onto the fairlead. Just unclip for 'froadin and clip back on for road miles :icon_winkle:
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Thanks for that guys.... glass of wine and google mode and found '3M super dual lock'....4 times stronger than Velcro but £80 for a roll .... but never mind cos there's e-bay and you can buy it for about a £5 for half a metre..... says it withstands 5000 on and offs.... got some coming by post tomorrow. :icon_super:
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Looking cool mate, I see you are running the mx6 pro comp shocks. I need to get some new shocks for mine and seeing as we dont have the wide variety easy to get over here was looking at those, whats you opinion of them?
Clayt
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brilliant shocks mate. had RE doetsch tech something or other before and they gave a hard ride......
You need to have eye to eye bracket or adapter tho.
They come in a number of flavours
3 length settings and 3 strengths firm med and soft and they adjust 6 clicks....
I got the longest (well one would wouldn't one :icon_biggrin:) and the softest option (no comment)
I run them at the softest with no sway bar and compared to how it was it floats over the bumps.....
Best comparison is the front over a speed bump is floaty and the rear crashes over 'cos I haven't done that end yet.
let me know if you want me to dig out the part no and length specs for you....