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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Cockney Boy on August 20, 2011, 10:11:45 PM

Title: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Cockney Boy on August 20, 2011, 10:11:45 PM
Just want your recommendations on this kit as im looking at ditching the nasty drum brakes at the rear. Has nayone done this mod and did you get any nasties?

http://www.quadratec.com/products/12700_400_07.htm (http://www.quadratec.com/products/12700_400_07.htm)
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Nosebolt on August 20, 2011, 10:18:54 PM
they look just like the std set up on a ZJ. might be worth checking for sure as would be loads cheaper to get parts from a breaker
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Warthog on August 20, 2011, 10:41:47 PM
Get rid of those pesky drum brakes once and for all :003:

This kit is better :icon_biggrin:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SSB-A128-1/?rtype=10 (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SSB-A128-1/?rtype=10)

You'll want it for a Dana44 not sure there would be mucho differance at the the axles ends from 44? Grown up will put me right....

SSBC A128-1 - SSBC Rear Disc Brake Conversion Kits

Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Lornaben on August 21, 2011, 02:22:46 AM
Fook me that lot looks 'spensive, my mindy is 44's front and rear and came from the factory with drums. I have converted both axles to disc for a LOT less than these kits. Photo's are needed of your axles. I may have the answer  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Cockney Boy on August 21, 2011, 07:50:05 AM
Will take a few pics of my Axle for you guys to see
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: bigjeepzj on August 21, 2011, 08:09:26 AM
PM warp
He''s just done a rear disk conversion on his xj.using ZJ parts cost £200 i think
had fun bleeding them. as some how got an air lock some were.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Bubba on August 21, 2011, 08:17:41 AM
yes seen the set up the bleeding problem was down to the orientation of nipples mm nipples nipples uhm yes they were at the bottom of caliper so needed to be realeased from axle to bleed so that nipple could be at top they were never going to bleed on the axle..............does the nippple nipple sit at lowest point on a zj ??
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Bubba on August 21, 2011, 08:55:18 AM
warp is there a reason the left hand caliper could not have been fitted to the opposite side as that would have resulted in the nipple nipple on the top of calliper in the best location for bleeding
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: wildwood on August 21, 2011, 09:17:45 AM
Sure I've posted this before.......but here's Stu -Offroad and a disc conversion for a TJ with Dana 35 so tis the same bits for a 44......
As said bits from a ZJ and a few parts........... tis what I did............ Works well brakes stay cleaner but are not gob smackingly better......... maybe that is 35s tho :icon_twisted:

http://www.stu-offroad.com/suspension/d35disc/d35-1.htm (http://www.stu-offroad.com/suspension/d35disc/d35-1.htm)
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: daggie on August 21, 2011, 11:10:06 AM
yes seen the set up the bleeding problem was down to the orientation of nipples mm nipples nipples uhm yes they were at the bottom of caliper so needed to be realeased from axle to bleed so that nipple could be at top they were never going to bleed on the axle..............does the nippple nipple sit at lowest point on a zj ??

zj calipers have the nipples at the top
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: ferretjuggler on August 21, 2011, 11:55:48 AM
I'm with Alan on this one.

The Mindy front conversion only cost £100 or so.

Develop your own conversion, it's not rocket science :017:
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Bulldog67 on August 21, 2011, 12:49:50 PM
i think previous arguments against home grown was that if ya unfortunate to cause a big accident and plod/insurers come inspecting ya havent got the fall back of manufacturer etc
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: MOCAJ on August 21, 2011, 01:03:03 PM
i fitted an SSBC kit on my red truck.

It is expensive but makes a dramatic increase in your brakes, oh and i have a handbrake too  :greggmo:
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: wildwood on August 21, 2011, 01:10:24 PM
Trouble with the insurance boys is that if a big one happens then any tiny little thing that deviates from how the Jeep 'came out of the box' is going to give the bastards an excuse to walk away under the modified but not disclosed at time of insurance.......

Never stopped me though :icon_twisted: :icon_super:

But I'm glad it's over and I don't have to jump tho those hoops each year :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Tragic on August 21, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
i fitted an SSBC kit on my red truck.
Same here :icon_super:
Another option is to use VW rear calipers, handbrake works on the pads not on shoes inside the disc
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Cockney Boy on August 21, 2011, 02:42:49 PM
Is that something you could do Paul? Pocket money included of course?
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Lornaben on August 21, 2011, 03:16:08 PM
Trouble with the insurance boys is that if a big one happens then any tiny little thing that deviates from how the Jeep 'came out of the box' is going to give the bastards an excuse to walk away under the modified but not disclosed at time of insurance.......

Never stopped me though :icon_twisted: :icon_super:

But I'm glad it's over and I don't have to jump tho those hoops each year :icon_biggrin:
i think previous arguments against home grown was that if ya unfortunate to cause a big accident and plod/insurers come inspecting ya havent got the fall back of manufacturer etc

Got an engineers inspection report as a previous insurer insisted on it. That means its been proven to be up to the job. So the 'surance robbers can :wave-fingersmiely:
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: normalbloke on August 21, 2011, 07:12:50 PM
i fitted an SSBC kit on my red truck.
Same here :icon_super:
Another option is to use VW rear calipers, handbrake works on the pads not on shoes inside the disc
Rover/MGF calipers also work. I think Mazda 6 discs also fit. A friend did a kit using these bits with a total cost under of about £100 from memory.
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: isle of man on August 21, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
Gasser did the rover brakes so I guess this is also gone!!
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: bigjeepzj on August 21, 2011, 07:49:37 PM
i fitted an SSBC kit on my red truck.
Same here :icon_super:
Another option is to use VW rear calipers, handbrake works on the pads not on shoes inside the disc
The hand brake ratchet mechanism in the WV calper is prone to failure as it seizes due to water ingress .
not good for off roading
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Panic mechanic! on August 21, 2011, 08:00:37 PM
the vw caliper does seize quite easily but its fairly easy to overcome if you take it apart and grease with copper grease. ( that can be a fiddly job in itself)
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Warthog on August 21, 2011, 08:21:23 PM
I have templates for anyone who would like to fab, thier own bracketry to make a kit up using Volkswagen Golf calipers? Bracket templates are from the SSBC stuff :003:

Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: JamesH on August 22, 2011, 02:12:35 PM
I got ZJ bracketry, calipers, discs and stuff 2nd hand and am thinking about getting some king of adaptors made to fit vw calipers, possibly Transporter ones as Mike Cuff has done. Fixing seized calipers isn't exactly alien to a Jeep owner so that won't put me off VW components - Ze Germans have to be respected for their manufacturing quality.
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: Tragic on August 22, 2011, 08:44:37 PM
to fit vw calipers, possibly Transporter ones as Mike Cuff has done.

That's what I was gonna say....... :003:

VWs do suffer from sticky calipers, which reminds me.................I must sort out a caliper on my Passat :jpshakehead:
Title: Re: Rear disk conversion for the TJ
Post by: cj5woody on September 17, 2011, 04:25:55 PM
 Don`t know if anybody read the article in JP , basic idea was some Isuzu troopers had Dana 44 rear axle with disc brakes.Wonder if they where used over here? If so pure bolt on .