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Title: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 08:36:44 PM
As you know I have d44 n/t's for my CJ7 - but these are already at the gearing I would like - is it a whole new world of pain Im buying in to of relatively staright forward?

http://forum.difflock.com/ads_item.php?id=16657&sid=bbc107038d4134ebd4eebba1d2c7e310 (http://forum.difflock.com/ads_item.php?id=16657&sid=bbc107038d4134ebd4eebba1d2c7e310)

And do ya happen to know if they are discs (yes I could ask the seller but ... :003: )?
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 14, 2012, 08:38:50 PM
classic, that is the guy with the lorry!
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 08:41:54 PM
buddy?
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 14, 2012, 08:44:38 PM
kinda, nice bloke. genuine, heh you could pick up the lorry with the axles on it. bargain :003:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 08:47:50 PM
it could be  :003:

altho I was thinkin more about how much money you coud get off for me
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
I will hang on to hear how positive everyone is first about the easy swap this will be :eusa_pray:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 14, 2012, 08:51:44 PM
I will hang on to hear how positive everyone is first about the easy swap this will be :eusa_pray:

good luck with that :hysterical:

though cleggy on j33p has them on his tj, and big_patrols mate is fitting some to an xj
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 09:14:26 PM
I have faith  :003:

NB is on, Bubba is on, DJ20 is on, IOM will be on - in fact, lots of brainy tech folk will be on so someone will know

I could do with findin the spec sheet to see its width etc
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Nosebolt on April 14, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
to your original question, advert says axles with CALLIPERS, so would say they have discs, not seen many drums use callipers
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 14, 2012, 09:26:27 PM
to your original question, advert says axles with CALLIPERS, so would say they have discs, not seen many drums use callipers

 :hysterical: :hysterical: :banghead:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 09:29:42 PM
 :hysterical: you thought i read the tech part properly  :hysterical:

anyway smartypants - answer the big question please
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Nosebolt on April 14, 2012, 09:33:54 PM
if the big question is "world of pain" then depends who's fitting em.

those are from a coiled vehicle and your CJ has leaves so some fab work will be involved, either convert the CJ to trailing arm and coils or adapt the axles to fit to leaves by making new perches 
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 09:35:18 PM
so just new perches and away I go?

cool  :greggmo:

the D44 needs perches moved anyway
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Nosebolt on April 14, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
sounds easy don't it  :hysterical:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
as my optimistic collection bears (bares?) testimony - my glass i half full  :icon_jook:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bubba on April 14, 2012, 10:06:21 PM
my only concern would be if they ever had problems parts are meant to be uber uber uber dear and then some
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: normalbloke on April 14, 2012, 10:13:18 PM
my only concern would be if they ever had problems parts are meant to be uber uber uber dear and then some


That's BD out then!
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 14, 2012, 10:15:51 PM
 :icon_jook: :popcorn: :peekaboo:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bubba on April 14, 2012, 10:23:00 PM
nahh the cost would be a mere trifle for him
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 10:23:30 PM
certainly no parts on uk fleabay

and I cant even find out how wide they are  :banghead:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 10:24:10 PM
no lighthouse safety net for when im panickin tho


have asked some questions
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bubba on April 14, 2012, 10:25:46 PM
like do these go underneath the car ?
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 14, 2012, 10:27:27 PM
like do these go underneath the car ?

well they don't go on top :003:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 14, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
like do these go underneath the car ?

rumour has it Willo might be right  :hysterical:

I do have an oracle i can tap in to
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: dieselj20 on April 15, 2012, 08:59:02 AM
narrow trac or wide track axles presume fsj
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 15, 2012, 10:14:36 AM
n/t fsj is what currently is sittin nxt to the CJ
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 15, 2012, 10:47:59 AM
what drop is the front cj.......
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: wildwood on April 15, 2012, 10:53:34 AM
They be right drop

Like a chev dana60 :icon_super:  should be compulsory I say :hysterical:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: dieselj20 on April 15, 2012, 12:17:25 PM
shorten the long side 4" this makes the axle same width as a wide track cj you will have to move the axle mount and respine the long shaft last one i did used yukon outers and cj outer hubs but you could keep the 6 stud ends
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 15, 2012, 01:53:24 PM
are we talkin now the n/t's or the lj's?
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Dave The Sparky on April 15, 2012, 04:15:16 PM
Hes talking Dana BD and id keep the 44s if i were you, at least parts are reasonably easily available and cheap enough from the States.
I thought you were going full width with those axles though?

Oh and Willo both Cleggy and Dannys mate are using Nissan Patrol axles not Landcruiser  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 15, 2012, 04:18:00 PM
Hes talking Dana BD and id keep the 44s if i were you, at least parts are reasonably easily available and cheap enough from the States.
I thought you were going full width with those axles though?

Oh and Willo both Cleggy and Dannys mate are using Nissan Patrol axles not Landcruiser  :icon_winkle:

haha lol, thought i had it wrong, close though!
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 15, 2012, 04:20:06 PM
Hes talking Dana BD and id keep the 44s if i were you, at least parts are reasonably easily available and cheap enough from the States.
I thought you were going full width with those axles though?


yup, full width and 6 stud (new wheels and 35's all in place already), if i recall it only adds about 3-4" each side
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Dave The Sparky on April 15, 2012, 04:40:54 PM
So why dont you use them then? :017: But if you dont cut them down you will need to put your spring hangers on the side of the chassis rails to make them fit  :003:
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: dieselj20 on April 15, 2012, 05:10:32 PM
 :imwitstupid: :iagree: or you could make it a trailer Queen
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 15, 2012, 08:51:03 PM
Sparky - the lj axles are 4.88 and discs, which is where the n/t on the 7 will be heading, so im gauging whether its a cheaper option in the long run, especially as they also 6 stud

altho my ocd does like all the d44's  :003:

and diesel good bud - nope  :eusa_naughty: nope  :eusa_snooty: nope  :003:

trailers are for maniacs
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Dave The Sparky on April 15, 2012, 11:20:47 PM
Japanese parts on a Cj tsk!, you heathen  :003:

You sure both LJ axles are discs? i would ask the question as the rear is more likely to be on drums...
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: dieselj20 on April 15, 2012, 11:32:31 PM
 :iagree:rear is more likely to be on drums

Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: Bulldog67 on April 16, 2012, 05:13:44 AM
ok, cheers, I did ask last last night so will see, but width seems about 8" less than d44 anyway if im readin some specs right that i found on google so non-starter if i am; the dood is measuring
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: willo on April 16, 2012, 08:32:03 AM
Japanese parts on a Cj tsk!, you heathen  :003:

You sure both LJ axles are discs? i would ask the question as the rear is more likely to be on drums...

according to bubba, CJ's were made in Japan....
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: dieselj20 on April 16, 2012, 08:44:01 AM
Mitsubishi cj3b
Title: Re: How much pain for a CJ7?
Post by: jeepcj on April 16, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
If you already have the Dana 44 fit those, like dieselj20 said, got a pair of yukon scout d44 stub shafts and that let me use all my old D30 stuff from the steering knuckles out, made fitting a front dana 44 to a cj easy.
if you go with those yota axles you will have to find out if the caster angle is correct or you will be all over the road, also pinion length?, it might need new prop shafts making and then you have got to set up the steering, are these axles any stronger than d44s?
I would keep it jeep, and go with the d44s