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Title: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 08:54:59 PM
The kaiser is 24v, which is two 12v batteries, so do I assume I need a 24v winch?

Either way, yes or no, why please?

And why Im here, is there an issue with going for a large rating ie 20,000lb or do you need to match it to the vehicles weight with some sorta mathematical nerdy formula?

Cheers gents
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Cockney Boy on May 22, 2012, 08:58:30 PM
A 24 volt winch would be a good idea yes. Don't dick about with converters as youll be pulling too much current.
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: willo on May 22, 2012, 09:02:09 PM
bugger that and get a godwinch
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 09:03:05 PM
are ya goin all churchy on us Will  :lol_hitting:
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: willo on May 22, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgx1hc5GikU
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
so i need to go 24v - cheers CB

but what about ratings?

too small is not cool, but is there such a thing as too big? (im not talking ship big)
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: bigjeepzj on May 22, 2012, 09:07:34 PM
Your best off going higher voltage 24v pull half the current that a 12v does for the same work loads
control solenoids last longer and power cable don't need to be as thick
the other problem is that if you centre feed 12v off battery's for a winch you will upset the charge balance not good
you can run your CB and Radio ok with a centre off a 24v bat

as for the 20.000lb winch you just need to make suer it bolted down well and not going to pull the front of your mortor off
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgx1hc5GikU

I see  :icon_eek:

and cheers Dave, explained so I understand  :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: isle of man on May 22, 2012, 09:11:34 PM
 Have a new 24V bow motor kicking about!!
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: willo on May 22, 2012, 09:12:43 PM
Your best off going higher voltage 24v pull half the current that a 12v does for the same work loads
control solenoids last longer and power cable don't need to be as thick
the other problem is that if you centre feed 12v off battery's for a winch you will upset the charge balance not good
you can run your CB and Radio ok with a centre off a 24v bat

as for the 20.000lb winch you just need to make suer it bolted down well and not going to pull the front of your mortor off

thats all well and good IF the voltage doesn't drop...which it will
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
Have a new 24V bow motor kicking about!!

mental expensive?
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: isle of man on May 22, 2012, 09:19:13 PM
Have a new 24V bow motor kicking about!!

mental expensive?

Nahhh for friends but fooook me and it's three times the price. :ace:
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: bigjeepzj on May 22, 2012, 09:20:29 PM
Your best off going higher voltage 24v pull half the current that a 12v does for the same work loads
control solenoids last longer and power cable don't need to be as thick
the other problem is that if you centre feed 12v off battery's for a winch you will upset the charge balance not good
you can run your CB and Radio ok with a centre off a 24v bat

as for the 20.000lb winch you just need to make suer it bolted down well and not going to pull the front of your mortor off

thats all well and good IF the voltage doesn't drop...which it will

24v is still better that 12V

Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
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mental expensive?

Nahhh for friends but fooook me and it's three times the price. :ace:
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Willos winch is yours  :greggmo:

but Im worried I will still faint at the price  :003:
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: isle of man on May 22, 2012, 09:28:18 PM
Quote from: isle of man link=topic=20056.msg233974#m
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mental expensive?

Nahhh for friends but fooook me and it's three times the price. :ace:

Willos winch is yours  :greggmo:

but Im worried I will still faint at the price  :003:




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Now then I'm not sure you can fit 15 " tyre combos over those bakes!!!
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: ferretjuggler on May 22, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
If your not bothered about having the Mutts Nutts of a winch, a lot to the winches on commercial recovery trucks are 24V 'cos the that's what the vehicle runs.

Not that I'm suggesting that you sneak up on someones wrecker truck with a handfull of spanners in the dead of night, but 24V winches do come up on eBlag all the time.
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 09:35:24 PM

Now then I'm not sure you can fit 15 " tyre combos over those bakes!!!

have traversed the archives of m715zone and seems 16's would make more sense but 15's will fit, just, and I may have to shave a few thousandths to squeeze them on
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 09:41:42 PM
If your not bothered about having the Mutts Nutts of a winch, a lot to the winches on commercial recovery trucks are 24V 'cos the that's what the vehicle runs.

Not that I'm suggesting that you sneak up on someones wrecker truck with a handfull of spanners in the dead of night, but 24V winches do come up on eBlag all the time.

makes sense mate (not the stealing bit :003: ) - i dont need to be coughin up gazillions for summink mad (nor can I)
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: willo on May 22, 2012, 09:50:27 PM
If your not bothered about having the Mutts Nutts of a winch, a lot to the winches on commercial recovery trucks are 24V 'cos the that's what the vehicle runs.

Not that I'm suggesting that you sneak up on someones wrecker truck with a handfull of spanners in the dead of night, but 24V winches do come up on eBlag all the time.

makes sense mate (not the stealing bit :003: ) - i dont need to be coughin up gazillions for summink mad (nor can I)

says he who bought the 715...
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 10:12:10 PM
 :hysterical: will giv ya that one bud
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bubba on May 22, 2012, 10:20:44 PM
so are you planning to trash it off road  :017:
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 22, 2012, 10:35:27 PM
I woudnt say trash exactly but it will get an outing every now and then

it will b more than.a beltring show pony
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bubba on May 22, 2012, 10:38:48 PM
 :jpshakehead: :jpshakehead:
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Tank on May 22, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24v-winch-/150822355530?pt=UK_Trailers_Transporters_Parts&hash=item231db6824a#ht_500wt_1345 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24v-winch-/150822355530?pt=UK_Trailers_Transporters_Parts&hash=item231db6824a#ht_500wt_1345)
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 23, 2012, 06:11:09 AM
cheers Tank  :greggmo:

and Bubba - did you really think I bought it so I can revert to childhood and get the dressing up box out again and play toy soldiers  :017:

tbh even as a child i didnt do that due to the obvious lameness of it all
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: willo on May 23, 2012, 08:05:18 AM
Have a look at husky, milemarker, red and saley hydro winches
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: isle of man on May 23, 2012, 10:06:36 AM
Have a new 24V bow motor kicking about!!

mental expensive?

This is a motor NOT the whole winch.
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 23, 2012, 10:50:10 AM
that explains that then :greggmo:
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bubba on May 23, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
i meant you have a whole fleet of beaters to destroy off road  not that you wanted to play army so why spoil a good truck
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 23, 2012, 02:52:57 PM
beaters  :icon_eek:

works of art mate, works of art
Title: Re: Kaiser M715 winch queries
Post by: Panic mechanic! on May 23, 2012, 03:00:38 PM
beaters  :icon_eek:

works of a tart mate, works of a tart!