Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: nomadsz on April 18, 2013, 02:46:32 PM
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I am looking at getting a new battery for the WJ and with the need for more power for the camping gear and lighting i want to upgrade to something more substancial.
AS the spare wheel wheel is too small for the spare wheel i am thinking of putting the new battery in here and use the freed up the space under the bonnet to properly fit all the fuses and relays in a water tight box.
I am looking at one of these :
230Ah Non-Sealed Leisure / Marine Battery
PRICE £200 Including VAT and Next Working Day Delivery
Guaranteed for 3 Years
Length (Millimeters) 518
Width 276
Height 240
Gross Weight in Kilogrammes 55.0
Terminal Diameters
(Round Terminal Fitment)
Positive : ∅19.5mm
Negative :∅17.9mm
CCA (SAE) 1200
Voltage 12
Ampere Hours 230
Deep Cyclic YES
Engine Starter Battery YES
Battery Lifespan (cycles) 500
http://www.advancedbatterysupplies.co.uk/budgetleisuremarinebattery230amp.html (http://www.advancedbatterysupplies.co.uk/budgetleisuremarinebattery230amp.html)
Anything i should be aware of other than the need to extend both + and - cables to the back of the jeep? :017: :017:
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make sure you are not losing the extra power in the big battery by extending the leads :icon_winkle:
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Big FO cables needed, I'm going 70mm2 for mid mounted batteries to the front of an XJ
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How about running 2 batteries on a split charger, with the boot one just for the camping stuff?
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split charge is bollocks, more terminals, more complications, either 1 big battery or 2 identical in parrallel, like the rest have said use as big a cable as you can afford, unless you are running a twin motore'd winch you probably wont need 70mm cable, 50 or even 35 will be your friend :greggmo:
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split charge is bollocks, more terminals, more complications, either 1 big battery or 2 identical in parrallel, like the rest have said use as big a cable as you can afford, unless you are running a twin motore'd winch you probably wont need 70mm cable, 50 or even 35 will be your friend :greggmo:
Considering what he's said he wants to do with he additional battery, split charge is the ONLY way to go. At least it'll ensure he'll be starting the thing after a weekend in the boonies.If done properly,it'll work fine. He doesn't appear to be a winch monkey, so I can't see where the problem lies.
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split charge with leisure battery for camping lights and stuff is the easy way to go
If ya doing winching during the day have 2 matched batteries linked........but be able to isolate one of them for your camping uses.......so you can still start in the morning :icon_twisted:
There are other ways but seem to remember horror stories of stuff frying other stuff and it all turning to cack and sick ECUs etc :jpshakehead:
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split charge is bollocks, more terminals, more complications, either 1 big battery or 2 identical in parrallel, like the rest have said use as big a cable as you can afford, unless you are running a twin motore'd winch you probably wont need 70mm cable, 50 or even 35 will be your friend :greggmo:
Considering what he's said he wants to do with he additional battery, split charge is the ONLY way to go. At least it'll ensure he'll be starting the thing after a weekend in the boonies.If done properly,it'll work fine. He doesn't appear to be a winch monkey, so I can't see where the problem lies.
It may of course help if you read the first post.... :011:
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split charge is bollocks, more terminals, more complications, either 1 big battery or 2 identical in parrallel, like the rest have said use as big a cable as you can afford, unless you are running a twin motore'd winch you probably wont need 70mm cable, 50 or even 35 will be your friend :greggmo:
Considering what he's said he wants to do with he additional battery, split charge is the ONLY way to go. At least it'll ensure he'll be starting the thing after a weekend in the boonies.If done properly,it'll work fine. He doesn't appear to be a winch monkey, so I can't see where the problem lies.
It may of course help if you read the first post.... :011:
I did, you mong. Don't get your skirt in a ruffle. Given the o/p's description of what he wants from his electrickery, I was just suggesting that one large or two parallel batteries isn't the answer, and split charging two would be the solution. IMHO of course.......
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:popcorn:
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Move up a bit BD I'll bring the beer. :icon_jook:
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C'mon BD, budge up a bit. Ya want some more popcorn?
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Nothing to see here you doom mongers!
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Ahhh
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Well!!!! This is a dilemma.
In this new Birty world of political correctness, is this not slander? Or the very least deformation of character?
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Then again!!
Who gives a flying foooooook Blues
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at least it made a thread that was encouragin me to lose the will to live mildly more interestin :003:
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Have to agree with you Mr Dawg and with Peter..this PC bullshit is going to kill what used to be the best forum in the Jeep world.
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PC Bullshit!
:hysterical: :hysterical:
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Love hearing 'mong', reminds me of school age banter :hysterical:
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I've no said it for a good 30 years, if make me smile if honest
>:D
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Just my 10p worth.... if you're going to put a battery inside the car, it needs to be a sealed type, preferably gel battery or fitted in a proper sealed and vented box.
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Sealed and vented :017: :003:
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Just my 10p worth.... if you're going to put a battery inside the car, it needs to be a sealed type, preferably gel battery or fitted in a proper sealed and vented box.
thanks mike i had thought of that, had a go at my boss last summer when he asked me to recharge our leisure batteries for the light display in my hotel room!!!!
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make sure you are not losing the extra power in the big battery by extending the leads :icon_winkle:
Big FO cables needed, I'm going 70mm2 for mid mounted batteries to the front of an XJ
thanks guys where do you get 70mm cable??
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How about running 2 batteries on a split charger, with the boot one just for the camping stuff?
was looking but you can get systems running from £35 to £170
Considering what he's said he wants to do with he additional battery, split charge is the ONLY way to go. At least it'll ensure he'll be starting the thing after a weekend in the boonies.If done properly,it'll work fine. He doesn't appear to be a winch monkey, so I can't see where the problem lies.
so which system gives the best bang for your buck i am not ruling anything out at present.
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basic cheaper systems are fine for camping
The more expensive are for a heavier draw......
Tis what I was told :icon_super:
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I would put the main battery in the boot feed by 35mm and use a split charge to charge a second battery
you can get 35mm from
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PVC-Hi-Flex-COPPER-BATTERY-CABLE-35mm-red-/121030014762?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c2df3772a
I run a Bosch 100 amp in the boot just make sure you rear air vents are OK.
the main output of a charging battery is hydrogen. so just feed the vent tube up the rear vent and you will be fine
and for a split charge
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAMPER-VAN-SPLIT-CHARGE-RELAY-KIT-30-AMP-12V-/161011912468?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Touring_Travel&hash=item257d0ecf14
simples
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Step away from the Scotchlock....
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Step away from the Scotchlock....
Indeed, HATE the things.
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My local truck spares place does 50mm2 that I use on my winch, I thought maybe it wouild be wise to go bigger for the long run bit maybe 50 or even 35 will be ok. Anyway, HGV electrical people seem to stock it. O
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Step away from the Scotchlock....
Indeed, HATE the things.
Step away from the Scotchlock....
Indeed, HATE the things.
quite correct