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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Dutch on June 19, 2013, 09:07:31 PM

Title: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Dutch on June 19, 2013, 09:07:31 PM
Maf has replaced the RMS with a crown one sent to me from the states, but no joy.

Been playing at Bush Farm Sunday before last.

Still pissing oil if not worse than before.

Have now ordered original Mopar seal. Read on several US sites that crown seal is crap.

Maf also said that in his opinion engine is 'breathing' heavily (age, worn piston rings, worn everything basically), hence build up of pressure, and pushing oil out.

According to his theory no matter what seal you put in (even gold plated) it will not hold the oil in.

He is contemplating a pressure relief tube 'gizmo' from the bottom of the engine upwards with an air filter thingy on the top.

Far from me to doubt his judgement but does his reasoning make sense ?

Got to get the thing sorted in time for IOW Bonanza

Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: isle of man on June 19, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
How much end float has the crank?
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 19, 2013, 09:23:31 PM
Runnin 360 on fleabay
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Bubba on June 20, 2013, 11:25:41 AM
 :imwitstupid:
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 20, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
wooohoooo  :headbanger:

 :icon_pray: all hail the Bulldog
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Dutch on June 20, 2013, 12:51:47 PM
Kev, you of all people on here would be best qualified to voice an opinion on my tech. query.

Supporting 'Stupid' don't help much  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Delk on June 20, 2013, 01:26:47 PM
You should already have a crank case vent in the rocker cover. If it has a PCV valve installed I would remove that first to see if anything improves.
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 20, 2013, 02:22:55 PM
Errr stupid?? Cheeky!

Why flog a dead horse? Move on if MAF is right.

Most 258s wen they die just get weighed in
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Bubba on June 20, 2013, 02:39:55 PM
Well dutch delk is correct there is or should be a pcv valve in the rocker  I personly did not think that engine was a very high miler  so you need to be certain how bad its breathing is
Re the seal I never had great results fitting them in situe so that it self can be a problem

If you decide to spend cash on a 258 take time to really thinkk what you are spending on .........if you went v8 running costs would not be much changed with a manual cj7


Its all about where you want to end up really
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Delk on June 20, 2013, 02:50:17 PM
A 4.0 transplant is easy to install and you could end up with a good fuel injection system with just a little bit work work. Not as much flash as a V8 but it is a vast improvement over the 4.2 and the fuel injection alone is well worth it.

Dont weight the old one in until you have removed and sent the crankshaft my way.
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 20, 2013, 02:55:43 PM
Bubba - dont I have a 4.2 crankshaft in those parts?
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Dutch on June 20, 2013, 03:18:01 PM
Well dutch delk is correct there is or should be a pcv valve in the rocker  I personly did not think that engine was a very high miler  so you need to be certain how bad its breathing is
Re the seal I never had great results fitting them in situe so that it self can be a problem

If you decide to spend cash on a 258 take time to really thinkk what you are spending on .........if you went v8 running costs would not be much changed with a manual cj7


Its all about where you want to end up really

Thanks Kev.  Very helpful. You are right only done 120K so far from the 300K that these engines are allegedly capable of.

As for transplants and stuff ........ not ready for that yet a) financially, would have to buy the lump b) practically, would have to pay somebody to do it.

Mrs. Dutch would have a friggin' fit if I only suggested such a thing......and then hang me by my balls before she cut them orf.

Just want to run the darn thing as problem free as can be.  If that's with a little oil loss, as I have done, so be it.

Will talk to Doc Maf.
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: willo on June 24, 2013, 09:36:43 AM
delk you dont need anoter 4.2 crank, i do !!

Dutch, are you gonna make it?
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Dutch on June 24, 2013, 11:58:32 AM
To give me a fighting chance this is what the planning looks like :

CJ in workshop today - Change RMS again
Refurb both front callipers.
Some other small bits to tidy up.
Pick up Tuesday evening.
Clean and sort truck Wednesday/Thursday evening.

Friday 11:00 on the road.

Fingers XX'd.
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: willo on June 24, 2013, 11:59:50 AM
To give me a fighting chance this is what the planning looks like :

CJ in workshop today - Change RMS again
Refurb both front callipers.
Some other small bits to tidy up.
Pick up Tuesday evening.
buy spare petrol ;-)
Clean and sort truck Wednesday/Thursday evening.

Friday 11:00 on the road.

Fingers XX'd.
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Dtimot8 on June 25, 2013, 06:12:04 PM
Will
you leave my mate Dutch alone
I'm sure he will fill up with petrol
and Oil
and Oil





and More Oil
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Dtimot8 on June 25, 2013, 06:17:09 PM
Dutch
been there done that with an mk2 Zodiac
100 litre of petrol to 1 litre of oil
used to pour out of the rear crank shaft oil seal - ended up with a new sump (it was ever so slightly bent)
this is all from a very bad memory and is 30+ years ago
you have to make it
Regards tim
Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Dutch on June 25, 2013, 10:12:26 PM

and Oil
and Oil


and More Oil

Lord Timmy, thanks for watching my six ........ but....

NOT ANYMORE !!!!!  :icon_super:

Not a drop  :greggmo:

New brakes, new clutch, new crank seal.....(ok got some explaining to do to the missus $$$$$)

Got a new truck  :steeringwheel:

Title: Re: Blue still in Maf's shop - RMS advice
Post by: Brynjaminjones on June 25, 2013, 10:14:47 PM
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