Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: just-boot-it! on October 18, 2013, 07:51:20 PM
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Having had a few sweet trips out in the XJ with its almost 3in lift I borrowed a 31 for test fit and found it a little tight, just like my wallet, so I was thinking of ditching the anti roll bars and fitting some disconnects on the front. I cant afford a set of 31s at the mo so I was thinking of trying something different??
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discos on the front, take the rear one off :003: simples :003:
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disconnects are best mod there is £ for £, and as said remove rear
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How would removing the ARB affect the truck for daily driving and handling on road?
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That depends on the rear springs if you have heavy duty ones you won't notice it but if you have soft flesh ones you will get a little body roll but not enough to scare unless you drive it like an F1 driver
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Personally I prefer the anti roll bar on the rear, for the front disconnects are the logical answer.
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The simple way is to try it. Drop the rear anti roll bar off and drive around for a week or so. If it feels too boat like, put it back on.
I run disconnects up front on the TJ and no rear anti roll bar and drive to suit how the Jeep handles.
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removed both and ruining a long arm just take it steady round bends
as said try removing the rear and see how it rides
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For 90% off road would you remove the rear ARB and just refit for the MOT??
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Not sure it's an MOT requirement. I suppose, if fitted, bushes etc need to be good but have never been picked up on it for not having one.
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warp has removed his years ago
and pass several mots
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Front - Stick some Disconnects on. No question. :icon_super: :icon_super:
Rear - Ditch it. But with two caveats.
a) It's a Jeep not a sports car so drive it like a Jeep.
b) If you tow heavy stuff (caravans, fully loaded trailers etc.) I'd keep it on.
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IMHO if your running big enough tyres the that negates the usefulness of the ARB while on the road anyway so why bother with it, disconnects are great compromise but just anther thing to break/get jammed up with mud.
MOT is another question, I'll defer to those that know better but years ago I was asked my my Niva didn't have a front ARB and I convinced the tester it was an option and not all had them :icon_winkle:
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not all had rears
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warp has removed his years ago
and pass several mots
Front, rear or both ??
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The rear
Don't remover the rear on a ZJ you will roll it
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MOT is another question, I'll defer to those that know better but years ago I was asked my my Niva didn't have a front ARB and I convinced the tester it was an option and not all had them :icon_winkle:
now you told me that if they arent on there then its not an MOT failure, and as I noticed not a jot of difference on the Chief they are coming off
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I don't think that they do much for cart spring truck
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why do I feel like I have just been insulted :003:
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small self esteem
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haha there are many things I suffer from but small self esteem aint one of them :headbanger:
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Boris has no anti roll bars on him and he drives on the road just fine but then no matter what you do to an XJ it will always handle like a greased baked bean. Just drive accordingly
As has been said, if the bars aren't there then they can't be tested and so not an MOT failure
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As has been said, if the bars aren't there then they can't be tested and so not an MOT failure
Reason for Rejection 1. A suspension component or its attachment bracket or linkage: missing where one is fitted as standard 2.4 Suspension - General
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Do u think Mike that ya average MOT dood woud know whether they are missing or not on the Chief?
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Recon not as long as you remove all the the brackets
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Do u think Mike that ya average MOT dood woud know whether they are missing or not on the Chief?
Nope
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As has been said, if the bars aren't there then they can't be tested and so not an MOT failure
Reason for Rejection 1. A suspension component or its attachment bracket or linkage: missing where one is fitted as standard 2.4 Suspension - General
My apologies, you are of course right, my comment was based on Boris passing his MOT despite my telling the tester that I'd removed the ARB.... His comment was " If it aint there then I can't fail it can I?" Not that I'm complaining but I am glad that I kept the ARB just in case it needs to be refitted for the next MOT..
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I removed front and rear roll bars over 5 years ago, allways passed an mot ,i just put the bolts in so theres no holes in chassis.but don't boot it round corners.
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Thanks for the replies folks, I'd not thought about the MOT so I'm gonna keep the arbs just incase of any probs. Got a pair of these from jeepthang: http://www.quadratec.com/products/16311_101.htm and while the XJ is off the road having the wheels, tow bar and steering guard sandblasted and painted ill get the spanners out and see how it goes. I take it the front brake hoses should be ok?
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My XJ minus its arb's with a couple of ramps :icon_biggrin:
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I expect it'll go a good bit further than that :003:
I got my XJ balanced on two wheels whilst playing in a ditch the other night - at that point the rear wheel on the ground was rubbing the wheel arch, and this is with front ARB still in place. :icon_super:
We then had to rock the Jeep so we had enough traction to get out again! :003:
Very nice XJ by the way!
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Cheers, I think I'm gonna go out and try and find a ditch and have a play, not had the jeep for 3 week so I'm itching to get out. I might go without arbs as yes it handles abit wooly but I don't drive it like a rice rocket anyway.
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I'm having abit of difficulty getting the disconnects to settle. Got them fitted but they bottom out on the arch when I go over speed bumps about 25mph?? I wound them down all the way on the threads and it don't seem to have any effect.
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put a photo up - they should be nowhere near your arches, unless bolts are fitted to outside and not inside
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I'm having abit of difficulty getting the disconnects to settle. Got them fitted but they bottom out on the arch when I go over speed bumps about 25mph?? I wound them down all the way on the threads and it don't seem to have any effect.
What size lift do you have and what size are the disconnects for ??? I bought disconnects and fitted them to a GC with a 2 " lift. Then I was told the disconnects were for a 4-6" lift.They do not work.
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Ive got a 2 inch lift on the front, I have a funny feeling that there for a jeep with a bigger lift as im pretty sure there fitted corectly, I trimmed about 8mm of the length and its done feck all :banghead:
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Hi Boot it
Ignore that PM I sent you earlier.
Those disconnects I sold you are for a bigger lift. If you look at the link that I sent you originally http://www.quadratec.com/products/16311_101.htm)
it states that they are for:
97-06 Wrangler TJ with 2-3.5" Lift
84-01 Cherokee XJ with 4.5-5.5" Lift
93-98 Grand Cherokee with 4.5-5.5" Lift
I wasn't aware that you only had a 2" lift.
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No worries mate I didn't read the finer details. I think I should be able to get somebody to extend the threads and trim a bit more of the length off, light at the end of the tunnel and all that.