Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Dutch on December 23, 2013, 02:44:35 PM
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Sick and tired of the escaping air in my front tyres so had them taken out and replaced by normal tubeless valves. :icon_twisted:
Short of cramming these things in a dive bottle with 5000 psi how can I fool the confuser?
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Eye think more mulled jagermeister is required until i underschtand your waffle :017:
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I think ducth is fed up of the tyre pressure monitoring valves fitted on the WK. such that he has had them removed.
Now the question is, how does one de-activate / fool the monitoring system such that it does bug the fuck out of him :003: looking for something that isnt there & showing error messages / chimes / warmings & doing his cloggy fruit in
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Yup Gaz - you da man :icon_super:
There's a fix on the wrangler forum.com but it won't let me on there.
Also found some dude on 't net that made a PVC tube with glued end caps with a valve in one end. Put 33 psi in - job done :icon_super:
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That's the normal fix - some kind of container like a small sandwich box, pop them in, fit a valve to one end, seal the lid with silicone and then pump up and leave in glove box. Or just take to the dealership and bend over while they fix the problem.
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Or just take to the dealership and bend over while they fix the problem. :IOM:
:icon_eek: :icon_eek: @ 150 quid a corner :010:
Just had an idea :073:
Jam jar + silicone + ducktape - hole in the lid to stick one of the buggers thru - rumpy pumpy .... 33 psi :die:
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There was a time when I thought it would be a nice idea to have them on Der Panzer but in hindsight I'm glad they arent fitted :icon_super:
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Sounds feasible Dutch..why not slightly bigger jam jar and five holes so you can do the whole lot at the same time?
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They all go in the one jar Bazz, as long as they are in the right pressure they are fine.
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Sounds feasible to my untrained brain. :icon_toilet:
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They all go in the one jar Bazz, as long as they are in the right pressure they are fine.
:iagree: :iagree:
the jam jar will work fine
or any container that can take 30 psi
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that is mental.......glad old stuff doesn't have that.........
BUT my previous Kawasaki had tyre pressure warning thingies.......OK but tyre fitters that didn't have dealer training could muller them and then as you say £150 a pop....... :jpshakehead:
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that is mental.......glad old stuff doesn't have that.........
Yup and the worst thing is that these aluminium valve stems corrode like buggery. I had one broken one already on the front. The only thing that prevented the valve coming out was because it was corroded solidly in the remaining stem :jpshakehead:
Worst second thing : Dealers say ....... yup you want the technology (or at lest a car with it fitted) ....... you pay up ..... Tough!! :icon_twisted: poor design and poor quality ? Hmmmm maybe but not our problem.
It will go the way that at every tyre change you'll need new valves and apparently IIRC from 2015 onwards every new car has to be fitted with them and working for the MOT.
btw pot wrapped in duck tape - plenty of sikaflex to seal lid & valve. Allowing to dry now before pressure testing :greggmo:
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FFS wear some safety specs in case she lets fly :icon_eek:
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Use a small coke bottle, they are designed to take a bit of pressure 8-)
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Use a small coke bottle, they are designed to take a bit of pressure 8-)
Still got me good looks without bits of jam jar sticking out. :003:
Had the whole thing lagged in duck tape but been unable to get a good seal on the lid. The gunk I used (and plenty of) did not seem to hold back 2.5 bar of pressure. Gonna give it another go this evening with glue and an old bicycle inner tyre. If that fails I'd have to go the PVC tube/end cap route. :011:
I did look at the empty plastic coke bottles in the recycling bag but I'd have to cut one open, put TPMS's in, and then reseal ...... and how the fook am I going to do that ?
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Aah, I see they is feckin ooge :icon_eek:
I had imagined they were smaller than that and would drop through the neck of a coke bottle :icon_toilet:
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would there be any call for a box of electricay that would pretend to be the TPMS valves
cos i think i know how to make one :017:
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Aah, I see they is feckin ooge :icon_eek:
I had imagined they were smaller than that and would drop through the neck of a coke bottle :icon_toilet:
This's the buggers, 1" x 2.5'ish ...... I will prevail over this electrickery sh*t :icon_super:
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Take your spare tyre off, Sikaflex all 5 of them around the inside of the wheel, put the tyre back on and inflate to correct pressure. Voila!
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Take your spare tyre off, Sikaflex all 5 of them around the inside of the wheel, put the tyre back on and inflate to correct pressure. Voila!
I concur.
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With the valve removed would the sensors fit in a 500ml Lucozade bottle?
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With the valve removed would the sensors fit in a 500ml Lucozade bottle?
Dunno, never managed to get the jamjar to seal properly, no matter how much gunk, glue, sealant and various tapes I threw at it.
I saved the valve and will now look at another container, going to go PVC tube and glued end caps now.
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Confucius say if you no want to use the spare,get pneumatic sack barrow wheel and use that.
11 quid a pr,saves pissing about with glue and stands a mighty ten inches high and six inch wide.
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the later valves have proper rubber stems, also as has been said before just glue em to the inside of the wheel with sika flex. they dont come adrift inside the wheel and you still get the pressure monitor working.
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Confucius say if you no want to use the spare,get pneumatic sack barrow wheel and use that.
I win :eusa_dance: - confucius was bang on !!! slit inner tube, stick whatsits in there, patched, 35psi - Yeehaw :headbanger:
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Cool.
Plus,if ya ever get caught in a flood ya got a handy float. :greggmo:
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Ah, this technology stuff VERY BAD JUJU...
Chuck the little buggers in the tyre of a cheap plastic wheelbarrow wheel, inflate and hide it under the back seat, wont weigh or cost much & its a pressure vessel (of sorts), so safe as houses.
Can also be reinstalled if required by next owner or if MOT man if'n him stupid an' wants 'em in.
Simples!
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Ah, this technology stuff VERY BAD JUJU...
Chuck the little buggers in the tyre of a cheap plastic wheelbarrow wheel, inflate and hide it under the back seat, wont weigh or cost much & its a pressure vessel (of sorts), so safe as houses.
Can also be reinstalled if required by next owner or if MOT man if'n him stupid an' wants 'em in.
Simples!
Eastry, as indicated above did exactly that. Two TPMS's snugly together in a barrow tyre. NO MORE check tyre pressure bongs - lights - Pings - etc. and worst of all tires loosing pressure big time through corrosion of the valves. :icon_super:
But wanna hear something funny ?
After a couple of days of uninterrupted happy WK motoring ............. PING ... service tyre pressure system
A) The bitch has got a soul and is out to get me :icon_eek:
or
B) the programmers at Jeep or however wrote the programming for the CPU had a laugh one morning and chuckled "Hey lets fuck with this guy" :icon_twisted:
The only difference is that it goes away by itself after a minute or so and sometimes it doesn't show at all. I have conventional valves in my tires now and the air remains where it is, so the bitch can scream its head off as far as I'm concerned. I'm not listening :hysterical:
Its a fantastic truck and I absolutely love driving it now. :greggmo:
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Time to beat the bastard at its own game then, cos that would still drive me bloody daft!
Take a pair of side cutters to the buzzer wires and then have the thing exorcised.
Or:
Watch out for an ECU from a scrapper that didnt have black magic tyre valves, install that in your truck and EBAY the present one, key codes etc would probably make this a crap option but its a nice thought!
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The WK has way more complicated electrics than older jeeps, swapping an ECU would probably require a dealer tech programming the thing for a whole day. Definitely a vehicle to treat as a car to be maintained and not a Jeep to be played with. Still love mine 99% of the time.
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On the plus side, the WK we just bough has had 4no pressure valves fitted by dealer.
So should be ok for a while.