Topic: 1st time Jeep modder (94-95 Cherokee 4L) (Read 10791 times)

Ricky Cantley · « **on:** June 10, 2009, 06:48:03 PM »

OK a bit of history then a request for advice.

I have owned my Jeep Cherokee for 8 years and when the MOT ran out last week I was planning to scrap it and spend 2 grand on another Jeep or a Landy Disco, but after a surprise MOT pass that only cost me a set of rear tyres I have decided better the devil you know. So first of all the Jeep is of to get the rear quarter pulled and repaired and a rust hole in the roof cut out and patched. After that a full service will be in order. This will leave about 1500 in the kitty. So what next?

I was thinking:

2" Lift Kit as the rear leafs are shot anyway
Second hand 16" rims with an off/on road tyre
Induction Kit
Decent exhaust system

Is this the best way to get a start on green lanes or do I need to change my ideas, also can anyone recommend UK suppliers, what manufactures to look for and what tyre choice will suite light green laining with mostly road use.

Thanks in advance

Ricky

tim_aka_tim · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2009, 07:10:44 PM »

2" will only allow you to put 30" tyres on it, go for 3" bare minimum to allow for 31s.
You don't want 16" wheels, you'll have less choice of tyres, and when you're off-road you want a higher profile.

Don't bother with induction, spend the money on something useful. Spending lots on an exhaust will just make you worry when you take it off road.

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2009, 07:49:34 PM »

decent tyres :smt023

MOCAJ · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2009, 08:08:02 PM »

Quote from: "Bulldog67"

decent tyres :?:

Ricky Cantley · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2009, 08:11:24 PM »

Any recommendations for wheel tyre combo and lift kit suppliers in the UK? Also what else will I need to get started?
Ricky

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2009, 09:16:12 PM »

Quote from: "my other cars a jeep"

Quote from: "Bulldog67"
decent tyres :?:

ahhhh, pussy sayin miaooooow :wavefinger:

and all I know after that, as per the 1000 threads on the subject, road tyres are pointless, and after that it is down to personal preference of the jeeps ride and the girth of his wallet. I have baja claws, and when the truck actaully moves (not very often) im perfectly happy with them, but im not draggin a boat across london to the coast

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2009, 09:51:08 PM »

same stud pattern as a TJ?

http://www.j33p.org/_club/classifieds_v ... ed_id=1277

Bulldog67 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2009, 09:56:46 PM »

ignore that, im gettin side tracked, you already got the wheels, just want the the tyres dont ya #-o

tim_aka_tim · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2009, 11:04:20 PM »

Try David at llama4x4.co.uk

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #9 on:** June 11, 2009, 12:21:30 AM »

Start out with front rear recovery points...the front may be there just needs a tweak...and some shackles and rope

Then for 235 x 75 R15 MTs (mud terrain) tyres on it and you've got enough to start out laning and PnP sites

If you've got 15" rims already you're ready to roll...

JamesH · « **Reply #10 on:** June 11, 2009, 10:33:15 AM »

Very good advice from the Bishop. I'd just add a set of JKS quick disconnects to disconnect the front anti-roll bar and allow the suspension to travel when offroad.

Don't bother with induction and exhaust.

A 2" lift is good for a bit of extra wheel travel but you'll need 3" of lift to fit 31x10.5x15 tyres, However then you get into the area where gearing is affected, driveline vibrations could occur...It's a slippery slope, trust me :wink:

Dave69 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 11, 2009, 06:55:16 PM »

stick some 235/15 mud terrain tyres on for a start and the recovery points as mentioned. for your first time out you will most probably find yourself belling out on the rough stuff so hence the recovery points. A cheap lift option would be for shackles for the rear and spacers for the front. I wouldn't go any higher than 2" with these, any higher then you need to be looking at bigger springs and leafs, this should give you a start into the offroading and relatively cheap on the pocket to start with incase you dont enjoy it. but once the bug has bit the modifications depend on your pocket.

watch ebay as lift kits can be obtained second hand as people upgrade to larger lifts

Mike Pavelin · « **Reply #12 on:** June 11, 2009, 08:48:49 PM »

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0431706583

Dave69 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 13, 2009, 10:02:18 AM »

Quote from: "Mike Pavelin"

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220431706583

anybody else have the warning sticker inside the jeep telling you that your jeep is lifted ?

Ricky Cantley · « **Reply #14 on:** June 26, 2009, 05:39:03 PM »

A quick update:

The Jeep was picked up today from London Jeep Specialist in Enfeild who have done a fine job of pulling and reparing the rear quarter and fixing the rust on the roof, in addition they gave it a full service. I live on a on a main road so most of the work to be done has to be farmed out, but as I have received a few bits and bobs from members on this forum, tomorrow I will have a go at fitting them, tow bar, rear light clusters rear seat belt and and I will have a look at the recovery points. The shopping list for next payday is a Procomp 2-3inch lift kit and a set of General Grabber AT2s 245/75/15

So far so good

Ricky

charger · « **Reply #15 on:** June 27, 2009, 11:24:19 AM »

Quote from: JamesH on June 11, 2009, 10:33:15 AM

Very good advice from the Bishop. I'd just add a set of JKS quick disconnects to disconnect the front anti-roll bar and allow the suspension to travel when offroad.

Don't bother with induction and exhaust.

A 2" lift is good for a bit of extra wheel travel but you'll need 3" of lift to fit 31x10.5x15 tyres, However then you get into the area where gearing is affected, driveline vibrations could occur...It's a slippery slope, trust me <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" />

I was told i could get 31x10.5 with a 2" lift & 16" rims.

dxmedia · « **Reply #16 on:** June 28, 2009, 07:12:39 PM »

Quote from: charger on June 27, 2009, 11:24:19 AM

Quote from: JamesH on June 11, 2009, 10:33:15 AM
Very good advice from the Bishop. I'd just add a set of JKS quick disconnects to disconnect the front anti-roll bar and allow the suspension to travel when offroad.

Don't bother with induction and exhaust.

A 2" lift is good for a bit of extra wheel travel but you'll need 3" of lift to fit 31x10.5x15 tyres, However then you get into the area where gearing is affected, driveline vibrations could occur...It's a slippery slope, trust me <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" />

I was told i could get 31x10.5 with a 2" lift & 16" rims.

31x10.5r16 are you sure ??

Size of rim makes no difference BTW

charger · « **Reply #17 on:** June 28, 2009, 07:40:28 PM »

Well Specialist Leisure told me that but the place I am going has 3 sizes of Grabber AT2's so we are gonna see which fits the best.

BK · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2009, 10:43:35 PM »

Dont buy procomp rear leaves,they are shite,or rough country rear leaves,buy some decent ones

Oldsmoker · « **Reply #19 on:** August 04, 2009, 09:40:43 PM »

In the same boat in that I'm happy with the Cherokee, I had a Grand Cherokee V8 but found this cumbersome and a bit vague at speed. After two years trouble free I've decided to spend some money on her.
Mine came with 265/70's on the standard pepperpot rims. THey foul the trailing arms on the front which acts like a brake in tight cornering. Bought some spacers from Specialist Leisure when last in UK.
Money to be spent on full service including all the chassis and drive train, front winch, and K&N's with a reverse mounted induction tract. Snorkels looks complicated and too a degree pointless unless you intend to submerge the vehicle which as was pointed out to me means getting the interior soaked. OK for a competition car not so good for your daily smoker. Also snorkels don't work so well with gas convertions.
I'll be doing the work myself so I'll let you know.

Oldsmoker · « **Reply #20 on:** August 09, 2009, 06:15:48 PM »

Typical. Just fitted the wheel spacers to stop the tyres chaffing on the chassis now they foul on the plastic wheel arches. If its not one thing it's the other.

scotty · « **Reply #21 on:** August 10, 2009, 08:59:17 PM »

get the grinder out!!!!

scotty

Oldsmoker · « **Reply #22 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:19:23 PM »

Grinder and stanley knife were put to work this morning and problem solved. Took her through the forest and up some dunes to try better manuverability. Saved some cash so inclined to buy that full flow intake filter.

Bubba · « **Reply #23 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:23:19 PM »

good result well done

tim_aka_tim · « **Reply #24 on:** August 11, 2009, 09:29:03 PM »

Quote from: Oldsmoker on August 11, 2009, 09:19:23 PM

Saved some cash so inclined to buy that full flow intake filter.

Or achieve the same net effect by flushing the cash down the shitter.

Author Topic: 1st time Jeep modder (94-95 Cherokee 4L) (Read 10791 times)

Ricky Cantley

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BK

Oldsmoker

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