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Oldsmoker

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Cherokee '92 4.0ltr. Erratic running
« on: September 07, 2009, 07:48:06 PM »

As mentioned in earlier posts I've issues with "Jeep service specialist" so now I do the work myself. The car has a PRINS LPG conversion where the induction is done by a single port attached to the throttle body.
Because of the hot weather issue I assumed it was a cooling problem and have flushed both the rad and the block. Nothing was wrong even with engine flush in that there were no brown residues coming out even on a back flush.
The thermostat was replaced (tested first) and I made sure it was properly seated, no leaks. New air filter and top hose from rocker cover to air filter. THere was a second hose on the top of the square filter box but this was blocked off. Started OK and warms up with thermostat working. I noticed that before the work the electic fan worked all the time, now it only works when cold!!
From cold it starts and drives OK (on petrol) but when it warms up it gets erratic with a high tickover and hesitant acceleration. I noticed that the exhaust is throwing a lot of shit ou and so I've checked the plugs and now they are sooted up. THey're being changed tomorrow along with the leads.
I'm sure the fuel filter was changed two years ago but again that was done in a garage so needs checking. Given that it is an MPI system I'm assuming that fuel mixture is done at the ECU. Is there a sensor I need to consider.

Any comment?
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donk498

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Re: Cherokee '92 4.0ltr. Erratic running
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2009, 10:06:55 PM »

Check for fault codes by turning the ignition on off on off on then counting the flashes from the check light. As below....

How to display the codes:

1. Turn the ignition key On - Off - On - Off - On within 5 seconds
2. Count the number of times the check engine lamp on the dash flashes on and off.

The number of flashes represents the trouble code. There is a slight pause between the flashes representing the first and second digits of the code. Longer pauses separate individual two digit trouble codes.

Example: Lamp flashes 5 times, pauses, and flashes 5 more times. This indicates a code number 55. A code 55 will always be the last code to be displayed. This will indicate the end of all stored codes.

Also, the code numbers will be displayed on the vehicle's odometer. Each number will be displayed with a slight delay between numbers. Again, code 55 will always be the last code to be displayed. This method should work for Jeeps up to 1997.

Code Description
11 No crank reference signal detected during engine cranking.

Intermittent loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor.

CKP sensor target windows have too much variation.
12 Direct battery input to PCM was disconnected within the last 50 Key-on cycles.
13 No difference recognized between the engine MAP reading and the barometric (atmosphere) pressure reading from start-up.
14 MAP sensor input above or below acceptable voltage.

5 volt output to MAP sensor open.
15 No vehicle speed sensor signal detected during road load conditions.
17 Engine did not reach operating temperature within acceptable limits.

Engine does not reach 20ยบ F. within 5 minutes with a vehicle speed signal.
21 Upstream oxygen sensor response slower than minimum required switching frequency.

Upstream oxygen sensor heating element circuit malfunction.

Downstream oxygen sensor heating element circuit malfunction.

Downstream oxygen sensor input voltage maintained above the normal operating range.

Oxygen sensor voltage too low, tested after cold start. (Upstream or Downstream)

Left oxygen sensor input voltage maintained above the normal operating temperature.
22 Engine coolant temperature sensor above or below acceptable voltage.
23 Intake air temperature sensor input above or below acceptable voltage..
24 Throttle position sensor input above or below acceptable voltage.

TPS signal does not correlate to MAP sensor.
25 A shorted or open condition detected in one or more of the idle air control motor circuits.

Actual idle speed does not equal target idle speed.
27 Injector 3, and/or 4, and/or 5, and/or 6 output driver does not respond properly to the control signal.
31 An open or shorted condition detected in the A/C clutch relay circuit.

Insufficient or excessive vapor flow detected during evaporative emission system operation.
33 An open or shorted condition detected in the duty cycle purge solenoid circuit.
34 An open or shorted condition detected in the Speed Control vacuum or vent solenoid circuits.

Speed control switch input below the minimum acceptable voltage.
37 Relationship between engine speed and vehicle speed indicates no torque converter clutch engagement. Auto. only.
37 An open or shorted condition detected in the torque converter part throttle unlock solenoid control circuit. (3 speed auto RH trans. Only).

Incorrect input state detected for the Park/Neutral switch. Auto. only.
41 An open or shorted condition in the generator field control circuit.
42 An open or shorted condition detected in the auto shutdown relay circuit.

An open condition detected in the ASD relay output circuit.

An open or shorted condition detected in the fuel pump relay control circuit.

An open circuit between PCM and fuel gauge sending unit.

Circuit shorted to voltage between PCM and fuel gauge sending unit.

No movement of fuel level sender detected.
43 Peak primary circuit current not achieved with maximum dwell time.
43 Misfire detected in one or more cylinders 1 thru 6. (4 and 6 cyls.)
44 Battery temperature sensor in voltage above or below acceptable range.
46 Battery voltage sense input above target charging voltage during engine operation.
47 Battery voltage sense input below target charging during engine operation. Also, no significant change detected in battery voltage during active test of generator output circuit.
51 A lean air/fuel mixture has been indicated by an abnormally rich correction factor.
52 A rich air/fuel mixture has been indicated by an abnormally rich correction factor.
53 PCM Internal fault condition detected.
54 No camshaft signal detected during engine cranking.
55 Completion of fault code display on Check Engine lamp.
63 Unsuccessful attempt to write to an EEPROM location by the PCM..
64 Catalyst efficiency below required level. (Same as code 72)
65 Power steering high pressure seen at high speed. (2.5L only)
72 Catalyst efficiency below required level. (Same as code 64)
77 Malfunction detected with poser feed to speed control servo solenoids.
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I'd guess at a possible lambda problem but i'm prob wrong.

Dave.
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Mike Pavelin

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Re: Cherokee '92 4.0ltr. Erratic running
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 07:22:47 AM »

First thing is to turn the lpg off and see if it rund properly on real fuel.
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Panic mechanic!

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Re: Cherokee '92 4.0ltr. Erratic running
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 10:21:52 PM »

sooting up is overfueling, so you got a mixture problem somewhere,it could be that the switchover setup timing on the gas is not turning the fuel feed off soon enough.
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Oldsmoker

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Re: Cherokee '92 4.0ltr. Erratic running
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 08:21:01 PM »

THanks Donk unfortunately my model doesn't show a lot of ignition lights nor does it have a digital odometer however I think the overall trend is a voltage drop across some of the sensors. The wiring to the +ve terminal is a bit congested on this car so I'll check the connections there.
It actually runs worst on petrol so new plugs, leads cap and fuel filter this weekend ought to fix the physical elements. We'll see.
As regards the LPG there is a large knob on the gas dispenser which way reduces the mix?
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