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[shuki]

i'm looking for a DIY or budget mirrors solution to take the doors off my TJ. either make my own like this:

http://www.4x4xplor.com/doorless-mirror.html

or buy some towing caravan mirrors and jerry rig them. any suggestions for this project ?

thx

[Nosebolt]

how enginering savvy are you?

have a look at some CJ mirrors, will require you drilling and tapping your windscreen hinges but then you can use same mirrors with doors on or off and will be propper jeep stylee 

[ivanidea]

Cycle mirror bolted into the door hinge (cheap trick used by some Wrangler owners).

Unless you fold your windscreen flat, you should only need one door mirror to be legal (but I wouldn't be suprised to hear the law has changed to make it a requirement to have 2 rear facing mirrors).

[Bubba]

cj mirrors are crap

[Mike Pavelin]

You need a windscreen mounted mirror and driver side mirror or driver and passanger side mirrors.

[Nosebolt]

cj mirrors are crap

true, and you cant see squat with the engine running but they look so cooooooooool

[shuki]

was thinking about going to a breakers yard to get any old set of mirrors, then welding a hollow bar with a nut at then end to bolt on ther end ? i like the idea of bike mirrors thought, would they hold up at speed ?

[ferretjuggler]

CJ mirrors been OK for me but look stupid pointing at sky wth screen folded.

I'm just wondering about a QD fix to swivel them around 105 degrees or so with the screen down.

[Mike Pavelin]

Go shopping on Quadratec.....


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[ferretjuggler]

Nah! No thanks.

cj mirrors are crap

true, and you cant see squat with the engine running but they look so cooooooooool

I'm with Bruce on that one.
Stainless CJ  mirrors look the mutts nutts but are a tad errrr..... underdeveloped.
The vertical (well sloped back at 15 degrees maybe) and horizontal screen positions are fixed not adjustable, so maybe a spring loaded ball and cam jobby on the mirror head fixing would let them click from one position to the other.

Weighting the mirrors to change their resonant frequency will stop them vibrating with the engine, that's an old trick from old brit motorcyles

[Bubba]

the best upgrade you can do to a cj that gets used daily are yj/tj mirrors

[wildwood]

The bolt to windscreen hinge jobbies that Mike has a pic of up there are a good way of putting your original big door mirrors where the law wants em.....
But you got to have hands of a 6 month old to fix em behind the dash and when they are fixed as in my case YJ you may have difficulties on the off side or nearside (passenger side) cos the windscreen frame and aux aftermarket rollbar is in the way... which is my case and I'm LHD so can not see properly to overtake but its legal........ also offroad I've smacked the mirrors into the frame and dented the rain gutters and broke one mirror. they look good though..... or did

[Bulldog67]

the best upgrade you can do to a cj that gets used daily are yj/tj mirrors

why? do they not vibrate? can u actually see in them?

[Nosebolt]

why you need working mirrors? once you have passed it, it don't matter anymore

[Bulldog67]

I always found mirrors help with situations outlined below 

................ to make it worse I have allready fitted the fender (which now has to come off again) and then to top it off it started raining so I reversed the CJ back into its parking space in front of the side workshop forgetting I had the tailgate open and the tyre carrier out, result tyre carrier through the workshop door

  

[Panic mechanic!]

you got him there.

[Nosebolt]

TBH it had mirrors, I just didn't use em

[Jonny Jeep]

Unless you fold your windscreen flat, you should only need one door mirror to be legal (but I wouldn't be suprised to hear the law has changed to make it a requirement to have 2 rear facing mirrors).

MOT only requires one mirror, but the law (C&U) requires two, one of which MUST be the driver side mirror. The MOT is no guarantee a vehicle is legal.

[Mike Pavelin]

The MoT test requires vehicles registered after 1 August 1978 to have an offside exterior mirror and either an interior mirror or nearside exterior mirror.

[Jonny Jeep]

Mike, I stand corrected. MOT is same as C&U regs as far as mirrors are concerned.

[shuki]

Okay, so I'm legal with only one side mirror on the driver's side door if i have a rearview mirror (everyone has those) ?
i'm checking out the breaker yard tomorrow before i rule out making this a project and not a purchase. in which case relocation brackets  seems the most sensible option ?