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[Warthog]

Asylum has a set of axles to chuck under his TJ. Dana 30 front 4:56 with a tru-trac in. At the rear is a Dana44 with and ARB, 4:56 of course
The rear has been stripped of its stock up mounts and ready for 3 link (all removed by previous owner) So with some research, we have come up with a plan to get'em under his truck.

Plan is:
-Long-arm the rear axle. Tri-angulated uppers,  Lowers follow the path of the original axle mount.

-Front axle can go straight in without any mods at present. However a Radius armed front set-up using original axle mounts and long arm chassis mounts will follow.

First stage for the Bank Holiday, was to get the lowers done for the rear. The lower mounts on the axle, are still present. So lower arms made up, short arm brackets need to be removed ready to get an idea where the chassis mounts are to be located. We have numbers but, like to build in such away that makes the natural placements match the numbers The TerraFlex "Belly-up" skid plate has to be modded to make room for the chassis mounts. So a temp support will be put inplace.

But Asylums Daily J'Eep is off the road. So first stage has been aborted for now

However we made up the lower arms today:

 2.5" JJ's at the chassis. Damn these things are hard to come by in the UK....At a good price! Asylum got raped for these 2


Mated to 40mm x 25mm tube 7.5mm Wall (Well drilled out soild EN12, the intentions were to go soild. But change my mind due to wieght. I know CDS would of been stronger due to the materials grain direction. But this material was available and at 7.5mm wall, Should suffice)

 
65mm x 65mm x 50mm Bush housing. Glued to other end of tube, which will be at the axle.


Adiprene L42* bushes with 16mm centres. Trying this material out for 2 reason. 1: I have enough for spares. 2: Have seen how much of a beating it can take.
Centres are 20mm conduit, easily sourced with enough clearance for 16mm bolts.


Lowers are at 31.5" between centres.


Lower arms ready for fitting

*Adiprene® L 42 is a liquid urethane elastomer that yields high-quality vulcanizates of 80 durometer A hardness when cured with MBCA. Adiprene L 42 products have good tear strength, good abrasion resistance, and excellent flex life. They are very flexible at low temperatures having a torsional modulus of 10,000 psi (703 kg./sq. cm.) at -80°F (-62°C), and a brittleness temperature of -130°F (-90°C). Adiprene L 42 has been found suitable for the preparation of rolls, solid tires, diaphragms, boots, and for other applications where good flex life is needed. It should also be considered for making seals, bushings, and mountings for use at very low temperatures.

[xr6jeeper]

Looking good, are you going to weld a small strap around the bush housing ?

Geoff.

[Warthog]

Looking good, are you going to weld a small strap around the bush housing ?

Geoff.

Good idea

Think it would make sense too. Would take some stress off the weld.

One area i think may fail are the original lower control arm brackets on the rear 44. Will be plating them for now though.

Will try and get as many images of the project upped. Bit slow starting at present. Any input welcome

[doublej]

Any input welcome

how you guys starting when i have most of the parts...... lol

[Warthog]

Any input welcome

how you guys starting when i have most of the parts...... lol

Hey, were just resourceful You back on this Island mate?

Couple more images,
Clayt cleaned up the rear axle top mount locations:


Discs finally a rear axle that has disc brakes on


This is what were using to mount the upper bridge for the top mounts on to, To me, it makes a good base for the top mount, nice and easy to mount. No funky coping/fitting needed on tube.


GrindR-Fu by Asylum:



Chucked onto the axle, ready for some metal glue and set to aprrox pinion hieght when done


Slow progress at present, but it should pick up over the nxt weekends

[isle of man]

I have some Clayton upper shock mounts going spare if you are going to relocate.

[wildwood]

Very nice guys.... really like that last bit for the mounts.......

So with 4.56s let me guess??? 35s or 36s and 101-102" wheelbase??

And will it be ready for Kirton at the next Bank Holiday?

[Warthog]

I have some Clayton upper shock mounts going spare if you are going to relocate.

I'll leave that decision to Asylum? Those Bilstien 7100 would of been used though

Very nice guys.... really like that last bit for the mounts.......

So with 4.56s let me guess??? 35s or 36s and 101-102" wheelbase??

And will it be ready for Kirton at the next Bank Holiday?

35's i think Wildwood. No stretch at the mo.

Ready for Kirton? Would be a "lastminute.com" if we are Clayts, Daily has thrown a spanner in the works. Sooo the froader is now the Daily
Doable, but with a few things missing! 35's, Rear Arb. Long Arm front end. Would be a good shake down run.............

[wildwood]

So 35s and an ARB??? Mmmnnn just the spendy bits then eh......

Talking of which just finished wiring all the switches for the winch arm and operate system front and back..... what a mind fuck for someone who doesn't do lecks... but it works....... all carling switches at the last minute so bloody lights everywhere. Also added up the low cost (not) build and bits....... arghhhhh don't do it. I've sold all that I stripped off and its still 'kin a lot 

Like what yer doing tho.   

[isle of man]

Think I have a couple of Clayton 12" rear shocks but one has bust a seal (believe they are Walker Evens) needs rebuilding......Make me an offer!!!

*off to the garage to find them*

[isle of man]

No luck drawn a blank (Waggers must of had them) but did come across a pair of 5" Clayton rear springs and a pair of used Bilstein 5125's

[MOCAJ]

looking good clayt, spotted the ssbc disk conversion on the 44

sounds like im out of luck with the belly up, let me know dood 

[Warthog]

So 35s and an ARB??? Mmmnnn just the spendy bits then eh......

Like what yer doing tho.   

The ARB is in, ready to rumble. But no pipe work, compressor etc at present.

5 x 35's are a little out of budget until the suspension it done and tested. As much as Boggers would be the choice. Im affraid Simex are Favourites at present.

Think I have a couple of Clayton 12" rear shocks but one has bust a seal (believe they are Walker Evens) needs rebuilding......Make me an offer!!!
*off to the garage to find them*

Cheers IOM. However at present, we want to cycle the suspension once done. To see where were at on travel. But the decision to purchase would be upto Asylum.

[Bubba]

spotted the ssbc very good stuff

[Asylum]

Hey all,

Thanks for all your input and offers, like warthog said I dont really know what the full potential of this will be until its built and tested for some components to be purchased later. I have been squirreling a lot of bits away over time exactly for this project though and lack of progress today is my fault as I have man flu  which we all know is the worst kind.......anyway warthog thinks I have a rare strane of illness found only in the remotest regions of the world.........grinderflu....... as he knows I hate the damn things.

MOCAJ as for the belly up plate I have deliberated hard on this and it is a tough one. At present we are planning to modify it only very slightly but once we delve futher and I have my everyday ride back on the road so my froader can start being dismantled, our measurements may lead to other avenues in which case you would have first offer mate.

Something we are trying to adddress with this build, is to make the suspension adjustable to balance weight off and in the vehicle. ie. me! but all on a budget!

Clayt
 

[greggmo]

was that grinder runnin backwards lookin good you guys.

[wrangler]

was that grinder runnin backwards lookin good you guys.

I was thinking the same thing, sparks going the wrong way.

Waggers

[wildwood]

Have that problem a lot .............left handed

[Asylum]

The bigger and more important issue rather than the grinder going backwards is that the grinder is turned on and I am using it! 

[JamesH]

Where did you get your JJs from in this country?? I'm in need and would prefer a quick UK supplier. Thanks, JAmes

[isle of man]

Try Jim at gigglepin..

http://gigglepin4x4-shop.co.uk/epages/eshop343529.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop343529/Categories/Suspension

[daggie]

Try Jim at gigglepin..

http://gigglepin4x4-shop.co.uk/epages/eshop343529.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop343529/Categories/Suspension

Peter
thats not a bad price and a lot less hassle

[Asylum]

The last lot I got was from exact fabrication at £37.99 each inc vat but the 2 I needed for this urgently was from Devon 4x4 as they were the only place that had them in stock. http://www.devon4x4.com/products_a/c10026/johnny-joints/0.html

[Dave69]

no problem using a grinder left or right handed, but i have a problem being chased by one after it kicks and it then gets dropped

[doublej]

guess now we need to make to build weekend dates........ when we building?